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| Quote SirStan="SirStan"More professional than Cronulla and Gold Coast. Impressive.'"
While I don't think professionalism, if the term is used to mean conscientious, was a major problem this year at Rovers (aside from Kelly himself), with a solid forward platform, and winning more often he could do well. He potentially offers the cutting edge that was the one thing Hull seemed to lack this year.
On the other hand, he could be the bad apple that turns the whole barrell rotten.
We've got concerns enough without worrying about where this silly young man turns up next, though IMO.
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| Quote Chester Wednesday="Chester Wednesday"He was on 250k at Rovers , apparently'" surely not on that amount was he if so another calamatous overseas recruit by the kr board Kenny sio anyday don't think Kelly has the skill set to oust sneyd his kicking game is not as good possibly use him as back up hooker as his strength was his running game if he felt like .it has to work harder if he is at the sharks next year
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"Good business if his signing is true, thanks for sacking him, as we get him for free.'"
All our players were available for free after the million pound game.
He was the cherry of nobheadery on our cake of tepid incompetence in 2016 and I'm not at all sorry to see the back of him, after that.
If you get the 2015 version, good signing.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"All our players were available for free after the million pound game.
He was the cherry of nobheadery on our cake of tepid incompetence in 2016 and I'm not at all sorry to see the back of him, after that.
If you get the 2015 version, good signing.'"
You didn't know you was going down when he was sacked? He should have played he could have saved the season for you lot.
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| he could have played but 1 against 13 is a bit unfair
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| A big risk, but one worth taking IMO, you would guess we will get him on a good deal and if he acts like he did in the 2nd year, then at least we have some options to play stand off. If we can get the best out of him then it's a great signing, who will work well with Sneyd and should do well behind or pack.
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| Kelly WITH Sneyd would be a good pairing IMO, Sneyd kicking and organising and kelly a bit off the cuff.
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| that would upset one or two of your existing squad surely think Radford has signed him for the sake of it,[u=#FF4000 edit MR.[/u
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"You didn't know you was going down when he was sacked? He should have played he could have saved the season for you lot.'"
Maybe he should. But it was his fault a choice had to be made, so as it was he helped hammer in the final nail in the coffin.
Others made mistakes, but they were honest mistakes. Kelly was just a wazzock.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"Maybe he should. But it was his fault a choice had to be made, so as it was he helped hammer in the final nail in the coffin.
Others made mistakes, but they were honest mistakes. Kelly was just a wazzock.'"
What did he actually do? Other then return late.
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| Quote rover 2000="rover 2000"that would upset one or two of your existing squad surely think Radford has signed him for the sake of it, '"
Not sure how it would upset one or two, Michaels and Mini know him and I'm sure they have been spoken to about him, we have to trust Radford and Tony, as there recruitment has been very good.
Rumoured to be already training with Hull (or at least One on one with Hatton)
I think we all agree he has the talent, but has been a knob off the field, maybe he last chance.
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"What did he actually do? Other then return late.'"
You probably know better than me. I've heard a few rumours, of course. Even if they were true, putting them on here would be potentially libellous.
Much as JP wasn't (and I really hope the use of the past tense is appropriate) afraid to take his points of principle into self-harming territory, I don't believe even he would have further jeoparized our SL survival over a single minor infraction.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"You probably know better than me. I've heard a few rumours, of course. Even if they were true, putting them on here would be potentially libellous.
Much as JP wasn't (and I really hope the use of the past tense is appropriate) afraid to take his points of principle into self-harming territory, I don't believe even he would have further jeoparized our SL survival over a single minor infraction.'"
I've only heard he was a nightmare at training, he doesn't like structure, which tbf his best asset is off the cuff play, punctuality wasn't the best also, & would behave as professional as he should have, but always paid his Valentinos bill.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."we have to trust Radford and Tony, as there recruitment has been very good.
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In a literal sense you do. But nobody is infallible, and every signing is a risk.
The upside is his undoubted talent. The downside is that he is clearly a troubled soul, whose irresponsibility has seen him booted out of three clubs, despite that talent.
On the balance of probabilities, I can see him being a decent fit for Hull. He'll add another dimension. Bringing the total to two by my count.
But expectations have been raised by your success this year. You're no longer the surprise package, and you're unlikely to have as few injuries in 2016 as 2017. If things go a bit sour, he's not somebody you want to rely on. In fairness, you wouldn't be, at least not to the extent we were.
He gets (another) fresh start. Hull get an x-factor player. We're well shot of him. Maybe sometimes everybody wins.
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| That's where you've gone to Mario looks like you're going through every site with your trolling.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"In a literal sense you do. But nobody is infallible, and every signing is a risk.
The upside is his undoubted talent. The downside is that he is clearly a troubled soul, whose irresponsibility has seen him booted out of three clubs, despite that talent.
On the balance of probabilities, I can see him being a decent fit for Hull. He'll add another dimension. Bringing the total to two by my count.
But expectations have been raised by your success this year. You're no longer the surprise package, and you're unlikely to have as few injuries in 2016 as 2017. If things go a bit sour, he's not somebody you want to rely on. In fairness, you wouldn't be, at least not to the extent we were.
He gets (another) fresh start. Hull get an x-factor player. We're well shot of him. Maybe sometimes everybody wins.'"
Total agree, good thing is that he won't be the main man at Hull and we have the squad to come if things dont work out, which Rovers didn't have.
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"You didn't know you was going down when he was sacked? He should have played he could have saved the season for you lot.'"
No he shouldn't, I'd rather have gone down than played a player none of his team mates wanted in the squad. He was pretty much the sole reason we lost to Leeds, he was beyond awful in that game.
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"What did he actually do? Other then return late.'"
The story I got was as follows.
He came back late which we all know , JP gave him a talking to REDACTED
Kelly contacted an ex Rovers player at Leigh and told him he had been suspended REDACTED
The ex Rovers player then told another ex rovers player at Leigh what he had been told who then told the brother of a current Rovers player at St Helens what had gone on.
This guy then told his brother who is a current Rovers player what the Leigh player had been told, the player went to JP and the rest of the Rovers squad told them what had gone on.
Rovers squad then apparently as a unit said they did not want him anywhere near them at training or if he was selected they would not play.
As far as I am aware this is the way things went on and as far as I am concerned Rovers are well rid he can't be trusted if this is how he reacts to discipline how could any coach take a chance with a guy like, this no way. Especially as Hull seem a close nit squad one bad apple seems to come to mind
COUPLE OF EDITS, MR. I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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| Quote easthull4="easthull4"The story I got was as follows.
He came back late which we all know , JP gave him a talking to and he told JP...
As far as I am aware this is the way things went on and as far as I am concerned Rovers are well rid he can't be trusted if this is how he reacts to discipline how could any coach take a chance with a guy like, this no way. Especially as Hull seem a close nit squad one bad apple seems to come to mind'"
Do you believe in Father Christmas by any chance?
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Do you believe in Father Christmas by any chance?'"
So you obviously know another version .... lets have it then
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| Quote easthull4="easthull4"The story I got was as follows.
He came back late which we all know , JP gave him a talking to REDACTED
Kelly contacted an ex Rovers player at Leigh and told him he had been suspended REDACTED
The ex Rovers player then told another ex rovers player at Leigh what he had been told who then told the brother of a current Rovers player at St Helens what had gone on.
This guy then told his brother who is a current Rovers player what the Leigh player had been told, the player went to JP and the rest of the Rovers squad told them what had gone on.
Rovers squad then apparently as a unit said they did not want him anywhere near them at training or if he was selected they would not play.
As far as I am aware this is the way things went on and as far as I am concerned Rovers are well rid he can't be trusted if this is how he reacts to discipline how could any coach take a chance with a guy like, this no way. Especially as Hull seem a close nit squad one bad apple seems to come to mind
COUPLE OF EDITS, MR. I'd rather err on the side of caution.'"
More or less what I have been told.
I also got told he ate Shaun Lunt's hamster on the morning of the Leigh game, this was the final straw.
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| Quote easthull4="easthull4"The story I got was as follows.
He came back late which we all know , JP gave him a talking to REDACTED
Kelly contacted an ex Rovers player at Leigh and told him he had been suspended REDACTED
The ex Rovers player then told another ex rovers player at Leigh what he had been told who then told the brother of a current Rovers player at St Helens what had gone on.
This guy then told his brother who is a current Rovers player what the Leigh player had been told, the player went to JP and the rest of the Rovers squad told them what had gone on.
Rovers squad then apparently as a unit said they did not want him anywhere near them at training or if he was selected they would not play.
As far as I am aware this is the way things went on and as far as I am concerned Rovers are well rid he can't be trusted if this is how he reacts to discipline how could any coach take a chance with a guy like, this no way. Especially as Hull seem a close nit squad one bad apple seems to come to mind
COUPLE OF EDITS, MR. I'd rather err on the side of caution.'"
Thats it in a very brief synopsis. Point two has more details and some very damaging controversy involved in the conversation on the eve of a massive game that we go on to lose which I'm sure for legal reasons I can't mention.
I'll just add for those that still believe Rovers would suspend their most influential player on the eve of such a massive run of games for simply missing a couple of training sesions is a fool.
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| Quote easthull4="easthull4"The story I got was as follows.
He came back late which we all know , JP gave him a talking to REDACTED
Kelly contacted an ex Rovers player at Leigh and told him he had been suspended REDACTED
The ex Rovers player then told another ex rovers player at Leigh what he had been told who then told the brother of a current Rovers player at St Helens what had gone on.
This guy then told his brother who is a current Rovers player what the Leigh player had been told, the player went to JP and the rest of the Rovers squad told them what had gone on.
Rovers squad then apparently as a unit said they did not want him anywhere near them at training or if he was selected they would not play.
As far as I am aware this is the way things went on and as far as I am concerned Rovers are well rid he can't be trusted if this is how he reacts to discipline how could any coach take a chance with a guy like, this no way. Especially as Hull seem a close nit squad one bad apple seems to come to mind
COUPLE OF EDITS, MR. I'd rather err on the side of caution.'"
If JP just talked to him why did he make out he was suspended? Why didn't Webster handout any discipline? Radders will put him right..
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| The suspension story didn't leak until just prior to the Leigh game, he was named in the 19 but the club announced the suspension while I was stood in the ground. This was clear evifldence that turning up late on Wednesday was not the sole issue otherwise he would not have been in the 19.
The bloke needs to grow up. He's got 2 kids but carries on like a student on fresher week.
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"If JP just talked to him why did he make out he was suspended? Why didn't Webster handout any discipline? Radders will put him right..'"
I'm not sure his bullying tactics will work with this one
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