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| Think I'm the only one who would rather have Sio on the wing and Dixon at FB. As the goose says the days of an alround fullback are long gone, Hardaker is close but still has defensive lapses. Dixon's dropping of the ball was over emphasised as apart from Wembley he didn't drop any more than any other FB we had. Sio on the wing offers us an added attack threat with cross field kicks.
Dixon will be targetted on the wing by any big winger, at FB this is a lot harder to do.
I'm certain it wil be Sio at FB and he did ok in the small stint he did (against championship opposition) but I do wonder what he'll be like there against top quality opposition.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"Think I'm the only one who would rather have Sio on the wing and Dixon at FB. As the goose says the days of an alround fullback are long gone, Hardaker is close but still has defensive lapses. Dixon's dropping of the ball was over emphasised as apart from Wembley he didn't drop any more than any other FB we had. Sio on the wing offers us an added attack threat with cross field kicks.
Dixon will be targetted on the wing by any big winger, at FB this is a lot harder to do.
I'm certain it wil be Sio at FB and he did ok in the small stint he did (against championship opposition) but I do wonder what he'll be like there against top quality opposition.'"
Dixon failed massively at full back he made his name on the wing at London then looked really good on the wing for us, Ken sio is head and shoulders above KD in both positions the guy is pure class
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| Quote Oafy="Oafy"Dixon failed massively at full back he made his name on the wing at London then looked really good on the wing for us, Ken sio is head and shoulders above KD in both positions the guy is pure class'"
Did he? Pretty sure the guy managed to get a number of MoM performances and was in the top 5 SL try scorers. I saw massive improvement in him at FB (Wembley aside) week on week. I think we're far too quick to give up on a player because the fans spot a weakness and can't see past it. Hardaker would look poor in our defensive line, its been said before a FB is no longer the last line of defence.
I agree on the wing Sio is head and shoulders above him both physically and defensively but has he really proved himself at FB?. He looked shakey in the first game he played there and dropped a lot of ball under no real pressure. The rest were in games against poor opposition that we struggled against. I think we lose too much out wide by moving Sio, just rewatch the magic weekend to see how much.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"Did he? Pretty sure the guy managed to get a number of MoM performances and was in the top 5 SL try scorers. I saw massive improvement in him at FB (Wembley aside) week on week. I think we're far too quick to give up on a player because the fans spot a weakness and can't see past it. Hardaker would look poor in our defensive line, its been said before a FB is no longer the last line of defence.
I agree on the wing Sio is head and shoulders above him both physically and defensively but has he really proved himself at FB?. He looked shakey in the first game he played there and dropped a lot of ball under no real pressure. The rest were in games against poor opposition that we struggled against. I think we lose too much out wide by moving Sio, just rewatch the magic weekend to see how much.'"
You're right. Dixon was more than OK at FB last year, his 1st season in this role, despite a Wembley Horror Show and a couple other below par games in the position. He was excellent on the wing too.
Sio was good on the wing and post Wembley at FB, but like Dixon he had the odd sub par and costly game, most notably on the wing in the home Hull derby.
Both are excellent players with flair and strike and need to be in our starting 13, interchangeable as required depending on the opposition.
For me, Sio's physical strength and Jarryd Hayne style running lines make him more of a threat at FB from deep and when joining the line than Dixon. He is a better passer and tackler too. He could be a Dream Team contender in this position next year. That said Ryan Shaw also offers us further credible depth and flair at FB and wing and Charlie is non too shabby either.
If Thornley starts at right centre as is likely, he is tall, strong and physical and will compete for the high balls better and will score more tries as a result. If my memory serves me correctly, like Goulding before him he used to be a provider of tries for Charnley at Wigan and can set up good try scoring opportunities for his winger from this position than Salter can. Whoever is on the wing outside him, say Dixon to begin with, would also be a major beneficiary of any extra space and ball supply.
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| At the begining of this thread I was looking forward to next season My 53rd season since I first went to the old craven park as an 11 year old. But having studied the fixture list I have taken the decision not to bother with a season pass & I doubt i will get to any games. Only 4 home games on a Sunday, I just wont go to night games as I dont get home untill after midnight & having to hang around the station for well over an hour is just what I dont want on an evening. I was looking forward to taking my grand daughter but no way can I take her on thursday or friday nights. I have written to the club but I doubt it will do any good? for me it as been awfull to realise that I wont be going anymore & any claims to be a family club are now gone it is a club for anyone but families. It is one of the sadest days of my life & feels like a bereavment.
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| It's awful that fans are being made to watch home matches on tele because they can't get to the night games, especially the Thursday's. Sky have the RFL and the clubs by the balls and they are squeezing tight. 50 od quid a month for a sky subscription, per household, I know some fans have sky and some don't, but it's getting to the stage where they will start forking out for sky rather than tickets and passes. The red button games at the end of last season were another nail in the coffin. There is no easy answer, but whilst it's easy to blame individual clubs, it's worth noting we are one of the few fighting this, trying to retain Sunday games.
And as somebody said on Twitter yesterday, if we want to play every Sunday Could be arranged, as long as we are willing play in championship 1.
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| Quote Rural Robin="Rural Robin"It's awful that fans are being made to watch home matches on tele because they can't get to the night games, especially the Thursday's. Sky have the RFL and the clubs by the balls and they are squeezing tight. 50 od quid a month for a sky subscription, per household, I know some fans have sky and some don't, but it's getting to the stage where they will start forking out for sky rather than tickets and passes. The red button games at the end of last season were another nail in the coffin. There is no easy answer, but whilst it's easy to blame individual clubs, it's worth noting we are one of the few fighting this, trying to retain Sunday games.
And as somebody said on Twitter yesterday, if we want to play every Sunday Could be arranged, as long as we are willing play in championship 1.'"
I would not want to see us back there but I will probably end up watching York its only 30 miles for me.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"At the begining of this thread I was looking forward to next season My 53rd season since I first went to the old craven park as an 11 year old. But having studied the fixture list I have taken the decision not to bother with a season pass & I doubt i will get to any games. Only 4 home games on a Sunday, I just wont go to night games as I dont get home untill after midnight & having to hang around the station for well over an hour is just what I dont want on an evening. I was looking forward to taking my grand daughter but no way can I take her on thursday or friday nights. I have written to the club but I doubt it will do any good? for me it as been awfull to realise that I wont be going anymore & any claims to be a family club are now gone it is a club for anyone but families. It is one of the sadest days of my life & feels like a bereavment.'"
I totally relate with your post.
As with last season, in 2016 I will be attending more away games than home games. It is a ridiculous situation. I am sure there are many supporters as deeply affected by the lack of Sunday games.
My concern is once the 'habit' of attending matches is broken it is a habit many affected supporters will easily fill with other distractions.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"At the begining of this thread I was looking forward to next season My 53rd season since I first went to the old craven park as an 11 year old. But having studied the fixture list I have taken the decision not to bother with a season pass & I doubt i will get to any games. Only 4 home games on a Sunday, I just wont go to night games as I dont get home untill after midnight & having to hang around the station for well over an hour is just what I dont want on an evening. I was looking forward to taking my grand daughter but no way can I take her on thursday or friday nights. I have written to the club but I doubt it will do any good? for me it as been awfull to realise that I wont be going anymore & any claims to be a family club are now gone it is a club for anyone but families. It is one of the sadest days of my life & feels like a bereavment.'"
That's rubbish mate, what's the problem?
Why will you have to hang around the station for an hour?
Could you get a train or bus from anywhere else if you could get a lift somewhere?
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| Anyone living within 5 minutes of a route from Pickering through Malton, Norton, Wetwang, Bainton, Beverley ( A1079 Bypass near Morrisons) is welcome to a lift to and from your front door or a close pick up point to the KC Lightstream home games. I have a stadium parking permit too.
Only exception is Home Game vs Leeds on the last game of the regular season.
Space for 2 or 3 in the back. Wife and I up front. DM me if interested.
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| I think there's been a massive over reaction to the fixtures we have as many Sunday matches as last season and is attending a Friday night fixture really that much of hardship for fans it's not really the clubs fault also as sky rules what we do
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| Quote Sandro II Terrorista="Sandro II Terrorista"That's rubbish mate, what's the problem?
Why will you have to hang around the station for an hour?
Could you get a train or bus from anywhere else if you could get a lift somewhere?'"
It is not rubbish, I don't want to be out late at night or drive to the ground, I am in bed most nights by 10pm that is the way I live, my choice but after 50 odd years of 4am starts at work that's the way it is. I am sorry if I don't conform to your norms.
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| Quote Rural Robin="Rural Robin"It's awful that fans are being made to watch home matches on tele because they can't get to the night games, especially the Thursday's. Sky have the RFL and the clubs by the balls and they are squeezing tight. 50 od quid a month for a sky subscription, per household, I know some fans have sky and some don't, but it's getting to the stage where they will start forking out for sky rather than tickets and passes. The red button games at the end of last season were another nail in the coffin. There is no easy answer, but whilst it's easy to blame individual clubs, it's worth noting we are one of the few fighting this, trying to retain Sunday games.
And as somebody said on Twitter yesterday, if we want to play every Sunday Could be arranged, as long as we are willing play in championship 1.'"
I feel sorry for all the fans that can not get to a match if it is not played on a Sunday, but i do not no longer live in hull so i can only get to 2 or 3 a year and thanks to SKY i can get my fix of rugby league and the matches on the web site was grate for me i hope for the same Next season
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| Quote Paul T - HKR="Paul T - HKR"I totally relate with your post.
As with last season, in 2016 I will be attending more away games than home games. It is a ridiculous situation. I am sure there are many supporters as deeply affected by the lack of Sunday games.
My concern is once the 'habit' of attending matches is broken it is a habit many affected supporters will easily fill with other distractions.'"
Why will you be attending more matches away than home? As far as I can see we only have 3 away matches on a Sunday afternoon. Wire, Hudds and Cas.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"It is not rubbish, I don't want to be out late at night or drive to the ground, I am in bed most nights by 10pm that is the way I live, my choice but after 50 odd years of 4am starts at work that's the way it is. I am sorry if I don't conform to your norms.'"
You misunderstand me squire.
I meant it's rubbish for you after so many years of going to games.
I would never tell anyone else how to live their life, my own isn't always that conventional.
I'm sorry I offended you, it wasn't my intention at all.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"It is not rubbish, I don't want to be out late at night or drive to the ground, I am in bed most nights by 10pm that is the way I live, my choice but after 50 odd years of 4am starts at work that's the way it is. I am sorry if I don't conform to your norms.'"
No offence but if you've been a supporter for 50 odd years what did you do when midweek matches were the norm every week and even playing on Christmas day surely those days were a lot worse for attending games
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| Quote Sandro II Terrorista="Sandro II Terrorista"You misunderstand me squire.
I meant it's rubbish for you after so many years of going to games.
I would never tell anyone else how to live their life, my own isn't always that conventional.
I'm sorry I offended you, it wasn't my intention at all.'"
No offence really but as you can appreciate after all these years it is annoying to say the least. I have had a pass for the last 15 years & the last couple of years I really have had no value from it is not the cash as at least it helped the club but to have only 4 games that I can attend is the last straw. I will have Sky & Rovers TV but would much sooner attend live games. & as someone has posted attending matches is a habit, break that habit & you loose fans, I wanted to bring my grand kids but that is impossible for night matches. Rovers loss will be York's gain & better to get to for me & just round the corner from the grand kids. I just feel so disillusioned as I have given a lot of time for this club I played in the reserves for a while, My son played in the academy so I am not giving up lightly. Maybe it progress but it leaves me with an empty feeling.
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"No offence but if you've been a supporter for 50 odd years what did you do when midweek matches were the norm every week and even playing on Christmas day surely those days were a lot worse for attending games'"
When I was younger I played in the reserves & biked into Hull but later I missed a lot of games because of work & living abroad but I was not a season ticket holder then & that is the difference I wont buy a pass now & if I have to buy tickets in advance for home games I wont bother anymore.
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| Continuing the fixture list debate: I have already stated I have been a longstanding passholder, but of the 23 league fixtures in 2016 I will only be able to attend FOUR home games contrasted with 6 maybe 8 away games. TBH I am shocked by this reality.
When you consider how my work schedule has not changed in the past five years during which time I have generally attended the majority of home and away games, it does rankle. However, because of the introduction of Thursday matches (and the player safety policy it invokes) I found last season frustrating to say the least.
Looking at the structuring of Rovers fixture list, it has ruled out renewing my pass, and TBH it has been quite heart wrenching to take this decision. I feel more aggrieved because what made it possible last season to see more games was the number of accessible fixtures on Fridays. I work in Leeds but live on the edge of the East Wolds. On Fridays I don’t finish until 7pm. This time around I will only get to Headingley and maybe the game at Huddersfield.
Fortunately I am able to attend all 7 Sunday fixtures (home and away), the jolly over in France (Saturday), but I miss out on Magic due to the late KO (9am lecture in Leeds on the Monday!).
When you consider I live less than an hour away for the Lightstream you can perhaps understand my frustration. Anyway, I will keep the faith. . . and watch some of the matches through gritted teeth on SKY and HKRtv.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"When I was younger I played in the reserves & biked into Hull but later I missed a lot of games because of work & living abroad but I was not a season ticket holder then & that is the difference I wont buy a pass now & if I have to buy tickets in advance for home games I wont bother anymore.'"
I can understand you not buying a pass and I don't think anyone could question your loyalty after 50 years but it seems a bit sad if you gave up altogether
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| Quote fun time frankie="fun time frankie"I can understand you not buying a pass and I don't think anyone could question your loyalty after 50 years but it seems a bit sad if you gave up altogether'"
It is a very sad day for me but after last year missing so many fixtures & this year only getting 8 games (including super 8's) it was the final straw, I might get to a game if I dont have to mess about getting tickets(ie pay on the day) other wise I doubt I will ever return. I did write to the club & got a very nice reply but as they explained it is the Televised games causing the problem with the player wefare issue moving Sunday games when our oponents or us have to play Thursday (funny how we still get two games over Easter). It has taken the gloss off what I thought would be a great season to watch Rovers.
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| I totally empathise with your decision regarding the season pass. You must be gutted.
However, we are all bound by a passion for our team. In your case 50 plus years worth. Where there's a will there's a way. Show willing and turn up on the day where you can as there's always room and I am confident that you will make double figures at home next year including regular and post season. Why? Simply because we will improve as a team and continue to play attractive rugby league at home, which in turn will make you desperate to be there. Be a little more flexible on your bedtimes as well, eh!
Good luck and enjoy.
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| As a season ticket holder, you could charge your plastic pass online for the CC games this year.
Could Rovers sort the software so that Internet capable people such as Beverley Red could easily charge their passes so that they can attend the games that they can?
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| Quote Sandro II Terrorista="Sandro II Terrorista"As a season ticket holder, you could charge your plastic pass online for the CC games this year.
Could Rovers sort the software so that Internet capable people such as Beverley Red could easily charge their passes so that they can attend the games that they can?'"
Goose. Asking our cumbersome, clunky e-ticketing interface to handle such a complex request in its current iteration without a total rewrite is about as probable as Scott Taylor receiving a standing ovation from the East Stand faithful at home in next season's Derby.
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