Peacock for me was another in a raft of abortive management appointments. On the board and coaching alike. We've had Scott,  Brown, Hackney, Keable, Langley, Pease, Peacock, Sandercock, Chester, Webster.. all brought in to fanfare/"great appointments" comments but are any still at the club except Webster? Either the chairmen have appointed the wrong people every year or... Meanwhile Mike Smith is a constant.



Since Lakin and Morgan left we've had average appointment after average appointment at the top table of the club and have stagnated as a result. The board continue to spend hundreds of thousands per year to just stand still.



Fresh thinking is needed for me. Bring in someone to the board from a NRL club for a couple of years. Back him with cash to get ahead in areas like memberships, reserve grade, marketing and match day experience. Similarly go for a strong NRL coaching assistant to succeed Sheens (looking like he hasn't signed an extension?). As I have commented before there is nothing in appointments so far to say we want to actually challenge any time soon. I hope this will be addressed with some ambitious announcement soon.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Wow, for someone like you who must spend every other minute looking at this forum, im assuming you attend the matches?? Oakes (yes he is or product, we got him as a just turned 16 little boy), Wallis, Cator, Wardill and Harrison must have sprung out of nowhere. I would even throw Mulhern in there, as 99% of his development has been at Rovers, likewise Atkin and Shaw. /> so that's at least 5. I reckon if you spent more time watching the first team instead of trawling through peoples posts on internet forum where people should say whatever they want, you may see furthur than your nose. /> (2 hours later, PM- please refrain from having an opinion and just go with the flow. Im so scared of losing my admin role" MR)'" You’re entitled to your opinion, just as i’m entitled to disagree with it - I certainly won’t be sending you a PM about it! I do prefer to discuss things with people I disagree with, and so have a tendency to play devil’s advocate. I apologise if you found my tone aggressive or patronising. /> Our disagreement really comes down a different definition of ‘bringing through youth’. My feeling, in terms of making us attractive to new recruits, is that the young players of the fringes of the squad won’t make much difference to outsiders’ perception. We know who they are because we’re interested in Rovers. I imagine other clubs have their own youngsters, but I’m not very aware of them because they haven’t broken through yet. The brutal reality is that most won’t have long-term SL careers - and there’s no shame in that! Spaven, Beharrell, Peterson, Sheriff, Hallett, Ollet, Guzdek, Holker, Robinson, Jubb, Moran - that’s how it usually turns out. My opinion is that until a few more make it to first choice in the 17, we’ll be perceived as a club that struggles to bring much young talent through the ranks to the first team. /> Atkin, Shaw and Mulhern is a different way of looking at it. However, Atkin was already 24 and established championship player when he joined. Shaw was also 24, and Mulhern 22. So I think that is a fair, but slightly separate point.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Wow, for someone like you who must spend every other minute looking at this forum, im assuming you attend the matches?? Oakes (yes he is or product, we got him as a just turned 16 little boy), Wallis, Cator, Wardill and Harrison must have sprung out of nowhere. I would even throw Mulhern in there, as 99% of his development has been at Rovers, likewise Atkin and Shaw. /> so that's at least 5. I reckon if you spent more time watching the first team instead of trawling through peoples posts on internet forum where people should say whatever they want, you may see furthur than your nose. /> (2 hours later, PM- please refrain from having an opinion and just go with the flow. Im so scared of losing my admin role" MR)'" You’re entitled to your opinion, just as i’m entitled to disagree with it - I certainly won’t be sending you a PM about it! I do prefer to discuss things with people I disagree with, and so have a tendency to play devil’s advocate. I apologise if you found my tone aggressive or patronising. /> Our disagreement really comes down a different definition of ‘bringing through youth’. My feeling, in terms of making us attractive to new recruits, is that the young players of the fringes of the squad won’t make much difference to outsiders’ perception. We know who they are because we’re interested in Rovers. I imagine other clubs have their own youngsters, but I’m not very aware of them because they haven’t broken through yet. The brutal reality is that most won’t have long-term SL careers - and there’s no shame in that! Spaven, Beharrell, Peterson, Sheriff, Hallett, Ollet, Guzdek, Holker, Robinson, Jubb, Moran - that’s how it usually turns out. My opinion is that until a few more make it to first choice in the 17, we’ll be perceived as a club that struggles to bring much young talent through the ranks to the first team. /> Atkin, Shaw and Mulhern is a different way of looking at it. However, Atkin was already 24 and established championship player when he joined. Shaw was also 24, and Mulhern 22. So I think that is a fair, but slightly separate point.

Quote ="Mild Rover"You’re entitled to your opinion, just as i’m entitled to disagree with it - I certainly won’t be sending you a PM about it! I do prefer to discuss things with people I disagree with, and so have a tendency to play devil’s advocate. I apologise if you found my tone aggressive or patronising. /> Our disagreement really comes down a different definition of ‘bringing through youth’. My feeling, in terms of making us attractive to new recruits, is that the young players of the fringes of the squad won’t make much difference to outsiders’ perception. We know who they are because we’re interested in Rovers. I imagine other clubs have their own youngsters, but I’m not very aware of them because they haven’t broken through yet. The brutal reality is that most won’t have long-term SL careers - and there’s no shame in that! Spaven, Beharrell, Peterson, Sheriff, Hallett, Ollet, Guzdek, Holker, Robinson, Jubb, Moran - that’s how it usually turns out. My opinion is that until a few more make it to first choice in the 17, we’ll be perceived as a club that struggles to bring much young talent through the ranks to the first team. /> Atkin, Shaw and Mulhern is a different way of looking at it. However, Atkin was already 24 and established championship player when he joined. Shaw was also 24, and Mulhern 22. So I think that is a fair, but slightly separate point.'" /> Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.

Quote ="Mild Rover"You’re entitled to your opinion, just as i’m entitled to disagree with it - I certainly won’t be sending you a PM about it! I do prefer to discuss things with people I disagree with, and so have a tendency to play devil’s advocate. I apologise if you found my tone aggressive or patronising. /> Our disagreement really comes down a different definition of ‘bringing through youth’. My feeling, in terms of making us attractive to new recruits, is that the young players of the fringes of the squad won’t make much difference to outsiders’ perception. We know who they are because we’re interested in Rovers. I imagine other clubs have their own youngsters, but I’m not very aware of them because they haven’t broken through yet. The brutal reality is that most won’t have long-term SL careers - and there’s no shame in that! Spaven, Beharrell, Peterson, Sheriff, Hallett, Ollet, Guzdek, Holker, Robinson, Jubb, Moran - that’s how it usually turns out. My opinion is that until a few more make it to first choice in the 17, we’ll be perceived as a club that struggles to bring much young talent through the ranks to the first team. /> Atkin, Shaw and Mulhern is a different way of looking at it. However, Atkin was already 24 and established championship player when he joined. Shaw was also 24, and Mulhern 22. So I think that is a fair, but slightly separate point.'" /> Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.'" /> My guess is that in those teams, they have better players around them to help them when they make their debut. Whereas we have squad players with few quality ones mixed in.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.'" /> My guess is that in those teams, they have better players around them to help them when they make their debut. Whereas we have squad players with few quality ones mixed in.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.'" /> It is an important, interesting and difficult question. I really don’t know. LifeLongHKRFan makes a fair point. Also, are they just not as good as the lads at Saints and Wigan, or are we missing something in our processes? One positive is that more of them seem to look physically ready to play against men than has sometimes been the case in the past.

Quote ="robinrovers10"Fair do's but my main piont is that we ARE bringing youth through at the par rate of Super League. Why is it that only a small percentage actually breakthrough? Every season we add the same amount of youth to the 1st team squad (usually 3-4 a season). So why cant they make the breakthrough like St helens/Wigan/Leeds.'" /> It is an important, interesting and difficult question. I really don’t know. LifeLongHKRFan makes a fair point. Also, are they just not as good as the lads at Saints and Wigan, or are we missing something in our processes? One positive is that more of them seem to look physically ready to play against men than has sometimes been the case in the past.

Quote ="Mild Rover"It is an important, interesting and difficult question. I really don’t know. LifeLongHKRFan makes a fair point. Also, are they just not as good as the lads at Saints and Wigan, or are we missing something in our processes? One positive is that more of them seem to look physically ready to play against men than has sometimes been the case in the past.'" /> I think it’s easier to slip a young player into a team that’s dominant without exposing him to much we’ve struggled one way or another for the last 4 or 5 seasons so any lads that have come through have been thrown into a bad situation

Quote ="Mild Rover"It is an important, interesting and difficult question. I really don’t know. LifeLongHKRFan makes a fair point. Also, are they just not as good as the lads at Saints and Wigan, or are we missing something in our processes? One positive is that more of them seem to look physically ready to play against men than has sometimes been the case in the past.'" /> I think it’s easier to slip a young player into a team that’s dominant without exposing him to much we’ve struggled one way or another for the last 4 or 5 seasons so any lads that have come through have been thrown into a bad situation