Very good point about the penalty count. England must keep it to a minimum and give them nothing cos they are always capable of making teams pay for errors. Hope it's a good one and we can give em a good game, but we've been here time after time with the Aussies when ever we expect England have turned a corner. Guess I'm more hopeful this time but would not be suprised if they gave it to us once again (score wise)

Someone needs to have a word with Ben Westwood then.

He's usually good for at least three penalties a game.



The Aussies will turn us over sure as eggs is eggs, or perhaps more accurately we will find a way to lose .... again!



Me saying that is our best chance of winning.

If Ellis is fit I say Westwood out Ellis in

It is a good job that the NRL is defenced focussed coz just imagine what they would have done to us if they were any good in attack!!!



Same old - we just are not as good and no shame in admitting it...



Notice how they don't take off their scrumhalf at any point....was Burrow not available? as Chase brings nothing more to the table than Rob.



Tried to get tickets and not too sad that couldn't...



After a great career not sure that a missed conversion as last touch of ball versus a try was in hindsight the best call... the guy is class and could easily play for a couple more years...



Always next time..

Same old story. We just don't cope with expectation, said it for years that we take a step forward and then the Australians take several steps more. They are and always will be to quick for us when it matters. Hats off of to the them they are a wonderful advert for RL.

Their teams are not full of over aged, over paid brits on their jollies looking for a last pay day.

there game was defence based how many times did they kick early to force the error then punish us? we tried to play them at there game and failed we jumped off them at the rook they held us down the short vrrsion is we came ip short yet agai!

excuse the grammer ive had a few to drown the sorrows

Our only chance was to put the pressure on and keep it tight.

In a game of unpressurised beach rugby the Aussies would win every time.

We did that for quite a period.

The problem is there are some mavericks that give penalties away, and on the back of penalties come tries.

And then the seesaw tips.

JJB ... well done you numb-skull.

Decent players like JJB and Westwood need re-educating in the field of penalty avoidance.



Who cares ... we are light years behind Australia.

What upsets me most about our defeat is that we go into series of matches without a recognised no 7 in our squad.



The coach must go . I donot know who would want the job but thats nor our problem.



Why do we have international rules , 99% of fans donot understand them also the England players didnt. I am refering to the incident in the 2nd half .

If your refering to the Ellis incident I didn't think the Aussie players understood them either Uate looked furious with himself and as far as I could tell him and the rest of the Australians looked just as confused as we did.



Have to agree with your wonderings on international rules in this case

In some games a lot of fans don't understand the way our referees apply the English rules.



Until we stop all the overseas players coming over here and taking all the key positions we will never catch the Aussies.

Spot on, Geoff.