The high tackle followed by the blatant dropped elbow to the head by the Kiwi's on Saturday really lowered my opinion of them.



He's arguably the best player in the country at the moment, let him be arrogant (although I think arrogance and confidence are often mistaken)

I am no Leeds fan but i think some one like Kevin Sinfield is a class above in his sportmanship and general manner as well as being a great player.

Actually, he has a lot to be arrogant about, if he indeed he is arrogant ... which I doubt.

PLUS, to his credit, he is quite modest when he scores tries ... which doesn't fit in well with the image some people like to portray of him.

He is not a crowd inciter or anything like that or someone who milks the applause to the point of nauseum.

We should be proud of Sam Tomkins ... he is quite simply the best we have produced in a clutch of rich talent.

Long may he prosper and stay injury free.



I have become a Sam Tomkins fan after first seeing him bunny-hopping around and wanting someone to smash him.

I was wrong about him ... the guy is a diamond.

I don't understand these petty attitudes in this country. Sam Tomkins is a brilliant talent and the whole of the rugby league community should be behind him regardless of who he plays for.

We like to knock talent and fame, it's a form of jealousy.

Why?

If he was that good he would go to the NRL to prove himself instead of staying in the SL.

TBF He's 22 and his new deal only precludes him from talking to either NRL or RU Clubs for 3 years - Plenty of time for him to have a crack at the NRL.

He's the best we've got---- and there's not many better if any in Aussie Land.

i for 1 dont want to lose more talent to nrl the aussie game is about strong defence and not always about attacking flare which is why i prefer the sl but its my opinion, i would never boo a player in an england shirt i rate him as the best talent weve produced for awhile so get behind the lad

I am glad that Tomkins is wearing an England shirt, great skill, great balance and for a small lad takes some hits.

What a stupid attitude!! We should be wanting to retain our best talent here to raise the standard of our own league structure. That was how in golf the European tour overtook the US tour.

Sam's a class act and will get even better over the next few years.



How people can slag him off but say nothing about someone like Isaac Luke who deliberately tried to maim an opponent last week is beyond me.He is the sort of player who should be copping the flak.



If we can keep our discipline and Sinfields kicking game is on top form then we will win on Saturday night.I thought in the first game they only threatened us when we gave them field position because of sloppy penalties.I cant remember many England v Aus games where we bust there line so many times.



Come on England!!

Very good point about the penalty count. England must keep it to a minimum and give them nothing cos they are always capable of making teams pay for errors. Hope it's a good one and we can give em a good game, but we've been here time after time with the Aussies when ever we expect England have turned a corner. Guess I'm more hopeful this time but would not be suprised if they gave it to us once again (score wise)

Someone needs to have a word with Ben Westwood then.

He's usually good for at least three penalties a game.



The Aussies will turn us over sure as eggs is eggs, or perhaps more accurately we will find a way to lose .... again!



Me saying that is our best chance of winning.

If Ellis is fit I say Westwood out Ellis in

It is a good job that the NRL is defenced focussed coz just imagine what they would have done to us if they were any good in attack!!!



Same old - we just are not as good and no shame in admitting it...



Notice how they don't take off their scrumhalf at any point....was Burrow not available? as Chase brings nothing more to the table than Rob.



Tried to get tickets and not too sad that couldn't...



After a great career not sure that a missed conversion as last touch of ball versus a try was in hindsight the best call... the guy is class and could easily play for a couple more years...



Always next time..

Same old story. We just don't cope with expectation, said it for years that we take a step forward and then the Australians take several steps more. They are and always will be to quick for us when it matters. Hats off of to the them they are a wonderful advert for RL.

Their teams are not full of over aged, over paid brits on their jollies looking for a last pay day.

there game was defence based how many times did they kick early to force the error then punish us? we tried to play them at there game and failed we jumped off them at the rook they held us down the short vrrsion is we came ip short yet agai!

excuse the grammer ive had a few to drown the sorrows

Our only chance was to put the pressure on and keep it tight.

In a game of unpressurised beach rugby the Aussies would win every time.

We did that for quite a period.

The problem is there are some mavericks that give penalties away, and on the back of penalties come tries.

And then the seesaw tips.

JJB ... well done you numb-skull.

Decent players like JJB and Westwood need re-educating in the field of penalty avoidance.



Who cares ... we are light years behind Australia.

What upsets me most about our defeat is that we go into series of matches without a recognised no 7 in our squad.



The coach must go . I donot know who would want the job but thats nor our problem.



Why do we have international rules , 99% of fans donot understand them also the England players didnt. I am refering to the incident in the 2nd half .

If your refering to the Ellis incident I didn't think the Aussie players understood them either Uate looked furious with himself and as far as I could tell him and the rest of the Australians looked just as confused as we did.



Have to agree with your wonderings on international rules in this case

In some games a lot of fans don't understand the way our referees apply the English rules.



Until we stop all the overseas players coming over here and taking all the key positions we will never catch the Aussies.

Spot on, Geoff.