Just to clarify my position, Westerman is not my 'scapegoat'. I don't remember having commented on him prior to this thread (not certain about that, btw), but chose to comment on this thread because it was solely about him.

Of course he's not 100% to blame for our downturn in form, but he's certainly part of the problem. I see nothing to suggest that he's future captain material, or even a valuable part of our medium term future.

No - and if you'd read my post you would have seriously understood that.

My post talked about where he needed to get to, and the fact that he wasn't there yet. I would imagine that he might well think the same.

He's not a scapegoat for me either, he's just one of many average players within our squad. He offers very little and unless he improves rapidly the £100K paid seems like a waste of money. When we bought him he wasn't even playing regular in Cas's squad, he's a player who people have always talked about having the potential to be one of the best but for me as yet to show it.

Some fans talk about his form last year but it was only in a few games towards the end of the season that he started to pick up his game. The lack of forwards in our squad won't be helping but I still think he should be contributing a bit more.

I thought at the beggining of the season he was playing well, then he got the shoulder injury and he hasnt been the same since. I know injuries dont help but at the start we had a much more settled side. I think he will come good for us.

Some were saying on sat night he's playing with a broken wrist.

But looking at his strapping i doubt it

Westerman did play with a broken wrist on Sat a couple of other players playing through the pain barrier as well Crookes Knee and whiting Knee maybe peaple should lay off these lads who are putting their health and wel being second to play for this club lets get behind the lads for monday ffs

Wait while he gets with his boozing partner in chase ,

Love the negativity towards Chase now that he might be leaving Cas.



It makes me laugh that people think that because Westerman and Chase play for different clubs they don't go out together.

I wouldn't worry if I was cas they have signed two model professionals in Jamie Elllis and Jordan Tansey to replace Chase.

Id be worried if i was you that you are signing all the cas players, look where we are languishing, As for your comment regarding westy and chase, we know what there upto around exscape and other places,

skiing perhaps???

Yes very worried that our club wants to spend some money on the current MOS and have signed one of the worlds best backrowers, it's a terrible position to be in.

Also happy with Arundel and I would doubt that Mcgoldrick will be here next season.

Westerman has been at the club nearly two seasons and hasn't put a foot wrong off the pitch as of yet.

I am very confident that our management and coaching team can handle these players.

id be worried if i was you, seeing as youve sold the current man of steel to us, and you replace him with jamie ellis......that is something to worry about....oh and youve also signed sicknote himself jake webster for next year....start worrying now my freind....

Don't understand these comments. Was the same with Watts. Surely Cas isn't that far away to have aleady been having nights out already??

Simple, Chase will not be bigger at our club than the rest, so in his contract, Adam Pearson will have put in "an out of the door son" clause should he step out of line. AP will not tolerate any cr@p and it will be made perfectly clear to him.

Westerman is good in part and very average in others.... A lot like tickle in his first season with us....
he is a good club player but IMO will never be a international but very solid and steady

Think people forget , because he's been around for along time that he's only 22, surely he's still young enough to be classed as a prospect, if not, hes at least got his best years ahead of him, when the teams right and where playing well, think westerman will be a stand out player

Westy was very good last season but has suffered this season with injuries. Still back him to come good, needs more time.

Yeah, especially over a few jars on Prinny Ave!!!!

I'm sure Hull will be spending tranfer fee only to kick Chase out when he inevitably steps out of line.

Stop with the obsession. You're just making yourself look a bitter idiot.

I think that we'd see the best from Westerman if we played him on one of the flanks. As Tickle's injured, I'd like to see him move out to the right in Tickle's place, with Whiting starting at 13.