Its the same with McIntosh.Simm got all the criticism yet McIntosh makes plenty of errors with high balls and dropping the ball coming out of backfield.

Errors are part of the game but you have to have a balanced view

Apart from the Cas game, when else has he had moments of madness?



No one is ignoring it, but weighing up the strengths and weaknesses of both players on based on playing for Hull, Wynne is a much better player.

There is a big difference, one is signed in at Hull and one is on loan, do we want two wingers who make mistakes and are poor defenders?



I'm not convinced by Mcintosh, but he can finish and create things at time, not sure Simm has impressed enough in attack or defence.



We have Mcintosh, Wynne, Carlos, Scott, Mitch and Swift plus a few other young backs, so not sure Simm is needed.

Saints at home

The Warrington game getting involved with matuatia



Numerous errors where he's thrashing about or lashing out as his heads gone after being tackled. Seen it all season from East stand. Needs to mature.



We talk about errors and discipline every week, but chose to ignore or not hold accountable the worst culprits......



Bad habit Hull fans have

The irony of this remark brought a huge smile to my face.

Wynne was wrongly sinbinned against Saints and they was nothing in the Warrington at home game, was stupid against Cas and think you are over exaggerating it, we have a few players who have been banned more than him such as Sao and Gale.



Thr argument is that he is better than Simm, which is hard to argue with their respective Hull form.

I stand by my opinion I think he needs to grow up, his hotheadedness leads to errors, penalty and sin bins. Got a long way to go to become a decent regular for us.

To be fair I can see both sides of the argument re Wynne. I think he is certainly a player that has shown potential and could be a very good player but his temperament is certainly something that needs work on. He does have as he has shown quite often this season an issue in getting worked up to the point of daft penalties and errors he makes. I like him as a player and the fact he is prepared to get stuck in but it needs to be more controlled. He’s sat some games out due to attitude issues too so again something that needs work to make him into a better player and hopefully reach his full potential.

I agree in some respect, but he is better than Simm.

Until Simm was given a go at centre I’m not sure that is a fair judgment?

I did have High hopes for him and kind of still do, no doubting there's a player there, its just mentally I don't think he's strong or mature enough, and sadly I don't think he l progress because of it.



I'd heard of the off field antics too, whereas I think he's in last chance saloon with Hodgson, the Sutcliffe signing shows me Hodgson doesn't trust Wynne. Hopefully he l buckle up and progress

This is based on what I have seen, but would Simm's handling and defence (maybe) improve at centre enough, I'm not sure.



I think the signing of Sutcliffe will rule out Simm coming permanently, think he needs a year or two in the championship.

Jack Brown done his shoulder and out for the season. Gutted for Brown, he's really developed this season.



Evans should be fit after his knee problem.



Mata'utia, Paasi and possibly Hopoate back for Saints..... just gets easier

Could do with Rovers winning tomorrow. Otherwise Leeds go 3 points ahead.

I know what you are saying and don’t necessarily disagree.



Just think it’s a little unfair to judge based on what we have seen in different positions.



Wynne can make good tackles but also can be beaten fairly easily at times. Just noticed his poor effort on Pryce for one of Huddersfield tries.



Both have made similar handling errors.



Who knows maybe one day we will get a better comparison?

Imagine if Warrington get turned over by Toulouse...

Imagine being nilled by Warrington.

I'm trying to forget that ever happened

Kendall has decided that not going to happen.

Toulouse not been angels in the 2nd half but my god Kendal is giving Warrington everything this half.

christ, thought Kendal had a few shockers with us but tonight the guy was warringtons' best player 2nd half! although toulouse can point some blame on themselves, got to question those yellows....would the likes of saints and wigan had the same outcome!

Looking at the fixtures for Leeds and crystal balling - we MUST beat Saints to have a chance of 6th. That's assuming Leeds beat rovers, which my betting account says they will.

So this is a genuine MUST WIN as opposed to Wakey away, which many didn't think was.

Leeds are a lot weaker tonight given they’ve had nearly a quarter of their team banned





Wouldn’t be so confident about them winning now?

Macca, Balmforth and Litten in squad for Simm, Brown and Hookem

Think it'll likely be something like this



Walker

McIntosh

Connor

Mitch

Wynne

Smith

Gale

Fash/Evans

Houghton

Satae

Lane

Longstaff

Lovodua



Taylor

Laidlaw

Evans/Fash

Balmforth



I'd like to see Lovodua at 9 with Balmforth seeing some game time in each half. A lot depends on if Evans is definitely 100% good to go too I guess.