Well we've just been dealt a massive blow against Rovers as Korbin Sims has been banned so think that's a huge plus for them

It won't effect you then

In a maybe weird way, i'm almost glad that ticket sales so far have been pretty poor. Feel like the club has been guilty of relying on the blind faith from loyal supporters in terms of turning out for games like this. A poor gate will definitely open the clubs eyes that these mediocre seasons just wont cut it for some people anymore. Id guess around 15-16k as the attendance but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being less.

Tend to agree and think the only saving grace for the possibility of a half decent crowd is the fact its the last game of the season, had it been a couple of games before the end then I think it would have likelihood would have been a poorer attendance.



In all honesty the way both teams have just fizzled out of the season I'd surprised if the gate is anymore than 10-11K and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it is some way south of that mark.

i agree Chris 10/11 thousand but the gate will be shown by the club at around 14000

Another pay day for the club gone

Surprised Longstaff didn't cop a ban for a 'late hit' in the 1st half, think it was him anyway. Not complaining though!

Tbf the RFL have done the decent thing and put him out of his misery

Can we appeal their decision?

Not sure what you mean by "showing" the gate but I think the SMC come up with the attendance rather than the club. I don't know why the club would artificially add on three thousand anyway.

KCOM have donated one thousand child tickets by the way, something else for people to pointlessly get hot under the collar about.

well if you were at the Saints game as an example the attendance was listed as over 10000.In my opinion there was nowhere near 10000 so i also dont know why they manipulate the attendance.

1000 free tickets to kids for the derby might fill a few places but it doesnt bring in much needed revenue

Crowd numbers are quite hard to judge by eye so I'm not sure I buy this fake crowd numbers thing.

There's a few chances for revenue off the back of giving away free tickets.

If they're to kids who's parents aren't members, then it forces their parents to buy a ticket if they want to take them.

Hopefully a lot of those kids will ask for a bit of merchandise whole they're there, a shirt or shorts maybe.

I'm not sure how much money we actually get from food/drink sales but hopefully all the kids are asking for fizzy drinks and hot dogs.

And then the main hope is they enjoy the game so much they ask their parents for season passes next year.



Granted if not of that happens you are absolutely right and it brings in no revenue, but if the seats are gonna be empty anyway and there is potential for the above to happen then its worth it.

Stop posting sensible stuff

I'm bringing my mate and his family. It'll be their first derby.



First game I brought them to this season was Leeds at home. What could go wrong....



If we don't get the result I'll put them down as a bad omen and never invite them again

Missed that one as I was enjoying a well earned holiday.





I don't think Hull or the SMC manipulate the attendance figure. What's the point? It's hard to count or even estimate the attendance when you are there unless you stand in the middle of the pitch, ask everyone to sit still and are able to count to 10,000.

As you and your alter egos know, whoever loses will put it down to two poor teams.

I dont think they out and out lie but they count passholders who don't turn up and there seems to have been more missing games in our block as its just not 'must see' stuff at the moment, there are then these mysterious tickets the SMC have to buy from us which I assume we class as a sale. Then there are all the kids parading flags, stewards etc which accounts for a few more who in the ground but not actually in the seats



More also sit in the West stand than when it first opened which maybe alters perceptions of how busy it is compared to years ago when it was all about the East stand.

I can remember people saying they announced attendances that were too [ilow[/i. ("No way was there only 11,000 there. It was definitely more like 14,000..."icon_wink.gif

I’m all for sending out a strong message to protect refs. I feel a bit sorry for Sims but I’ve no problem with the ban in of itself. 3 games is maybe a bit harsh but given he’s retiring after 1, I guess it doesn’t matter. However, given that Logan Astley wasn’t charged for doing the same thing less than half a second earlier, the message is instead one rule for some clubs and another for the rest.



They don’t make it easy to enjoy, do they?

But do they actually count all those things or is that just an assumption? (Genuine question btw, not being snide)



I assumed, perhaps naively, that it would simply have been a case of checking whatever software runs the turnstiles to see hoe many tickets had been scanned in that day. Occam's Razor and all that.

why inflate crowd figures if it affects future costs to smc/tax

I agree to some extent that a strong message needs to be sent out but on the flip side the RFL need to seriously look at the falling standard of the officiating of the game along with disciplinary. I also think the officials under the tenure of Ganson have become somewhat removed from the game/players etc.

The level of disparity in decisions made (or not made) by on field officials but also the VR during a game is a concern added to the retrospective action taken post game that again seems to differ. Then we have the lottery of the disciplinary which just leaves more questions than answers.



I think in some ways the process and people involved in that have gone power crazy and the punishments are just way too aggressive and harsh for a large number of incidents.



The public pay good hard earned money to see the top players but this season we seem to have seen far too many suspensions that really in all honesty have not been warranted and its making the game less attractive. A number of the bans Hull FC have received this season I would not argue with but there have also been a good number that shall I say are very questionable in terms of a ban in the first place or the length/severity for the supposed crime.

No Fash for us



No Litten for Rovers

Both numbers will get logged, the taxman wants to know what £'s the club has made and aren't interested if you've turned up or not, the stadium of course need to know how many have clicked through the turnstiles for health and safety. It is common practice for clubs to use tickets sold as its a slightly higher number and looks better.