If sacking him for this is in breach of our policy then obviously we can't. Depends what Hull FC's disciplinary policy defines as "Gross Misconduct", though. In my job, I could be sacked for what he's done as it would constitute Gross Misconduct under my company's policy by bringing the reputation of my company into disrepute. This could happen regardless of whether this was my first offence or how many warnings I'd received previously.



If Hull FC's doesn't encompass this, maybe we, the Hull club, should be revising our policies? Perhaps another old regime legacy that needs an overhaul?

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If there was, it wasn't mentioned in court.

So there we go. Does this mean McRae's back in England?

When you are a professional sportsman you can have a drink no problem but you have to respect the position you hold and be an example to the young kids that look up to the pro's. The more this is done the better the game and possibly this stretches to society, do you agree???? could be a very good signing as i have always thought he caused us lot's of problems in the past. "its down to him"

Thats good news then.

So after some tom foolery that got out of hand he has been punished accordingly. He is a daft lad for not keeping his head down and getting on with re establishing his career. If he still chooses to be a plonker after this then I would agree the club would be best to part company with him, however for now he has dealt with by both the court and club.



Hope he gets back to serious training and proves himself to be an asset to the club both on and off the field.

Have to say he seemed genuinely taken aback by the outcome, as though he was expecting something a bit more severe. When the Judge said "Case finished" or words along those lines, he seemed to look to his lawyer for guidance, "I'll see you in the corridor in a few moments" seemed to convince him that that, indeed, was all there was to it.

It never did knocker norton any harm. PS I saved you some roses caramels,the green wrapper ones ,but can anyone tell me the difference between these and the yellow wrapped caramel barrels

I expect better from you. I think.





The green ones are bigger. Like Joel's bosoms vs those of Mr Canoe Tits. Apart from that, you are correct, though.

I expect better from you. I think.





The green ones are bigger. Like Joel's bosoms vs those of Mr Canoe Tits. Apart from that, you are correct, though.

Watch the blue caramels mrs B ,if eaten straight from the fridge could smash your teeth or pull your fillings out

IF Aspinwall has any sense, he should keep a low profile until the end of the season.

ha ha ha all over a wolley hat,you really couldnt make it up,what a clown !

I work for myself but I've had jobs before that I would have been sacked for if I'd appeared in court and been found guilty

Maybe you can post full details of the club's disciplinary policy so we can all share your knowledge of it

Well, considering what Raynor had done I'd say he would have had a case for unfair dismissal. Maybe as he's not yet been employed for 12 months or more they could have got rid, but it was a D&D nothing (relatively) serious.



Just think a lot of people want rid just because he wasn't a star signing and one people questioned.

This really isn't the case, from my point of view. Normally I'd be in the court of "first offence - give him another chance" but - because of the current extenuating circumstances (yes - I know not related to Aspinwall, and therefore he's a scapegoat (but in his case, I can't feel too guilty)) I really think we need to be setting our "New Owner's Disciplinary Stall" out before the RFL.



I think we're at an all time low with the RFL and, indeed, our dope case has dragged the sport down. Therefore we need serious brownie points, and if Aspinwall is the victim, than i'm sorry, but, frankly, in the few weeks he's been here, his loyalty card isn't very full.

So you think the token gesture of making him a scapegoat will help? It won't, and he'd have a field day with us at a tribunal, how would that be good for us?



The current cloud over Hull FC will only shift with time, once common sense kicks in and people realise that the club got rid as soon as it came out, also that there's a completely new regime in charge it will become nothing but a bad memory of an old regime that ended bitterly.

Imo, the new regime would send out the wrong message getting rid for what is an isolated incident, and a nothing one at that. It just comes across as vindictive.

What he said.



Knee-jerk reactions almost invariably come back to bite you in the backside. The thing to do is ride this out by calmly pointing out that everyone involved with previous misdeeds has left the club and that the new regime will be doing a far better job going forward.

I had to laugh at this comment from the magistrate:







What youngsters in Hull hero-worship Aspinwall?

Unless it's been changed radically - which is possible of course - then dismissal for a first offence isn't part of it. Neither is being convicted of a crime an instant dismissal. You are right that none of us know the details, or for that matter any special clauses that might be in individual contracts, but based on prior events Aspinwall would not normally be facing the axe.

Well, that's that then. Was been a daft lad in the off season, did a joke that went too far and paid his fine for doing so. We are due a new scapegoat on here though, so I wouldn't expect any less.



The club needed to earn respect before this incident, we have been a joke for the past few years on and off the field. The only way to do that is to keep squeaky clean and perform on the pitch, the latter of which I'm very excited to see.

leopards and spots I am afraid

Could be poacher

turned gamekeeper