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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"If you are going to have a rant then please get your facts correct
1) Even Hodgson said after this game Connor would have made no difference
2) Hodgson is the coach of the club and responsible for all team matters and that includes discipline on and off the pitch..Indiscipline has been a serious matter for months yet nothing has been done.All he says is its something we talk about.If the players arnt doing what he asks then drop them
3) Shaul did little wrong yesterday and i agree he is past his best but it was a better decision in my opinion and obviously the coach agreed to play Shaul at full back rather than move players around yet you criticise me for wanting him in the team.
4) Shaul is standing in for an injured player.Yeaman was cemented in the team and stole a living from the club.big difference'"
OK.
1) Where did you get that information, I haven’t seen it.
2) What don’t you understand about bloody stupid players making bloody stupid decisions in game time. Gale and Reynolds have spent more time in the stands then any other 2 players.
3) Shaull’s past it full stop but there is an alternative, Wynne’s playing centre, INJURIES!!!
4) Your criticism of Kirk is paranoid at least, did he say something bad to your Mum? Or was that Griffin. You say he stole a living but Shaull and Bowden are doing the same plus Johnstone but we couldn’t move them on. If their in the playing pool you have to use them when we’ve got injuries. FFS Carlos has gone now, suppose you’ll bleat on about Mitch now.
One trick pony!!!!
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"We've conceded the 5th most penalties so far this season.'" There is nowhere to find the amount of 6 agains a team has conceded but we would be near the top of that.
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"What does seem a concern for me is the view of BH in relation to the Gale & Reynolds as according to the piece in the HDM he insists the partnership is still a work in progress
I really don’t think many would argue that on the evidence so far that’s just a fantasy. Let’s be honest these two aren’t young inexperienced players that are wet behind the ears and green. They are seasoned pros with a wealth of experience yet Ave so far delivered absolutely nothing and must be the worst HB in SL this season.'" There is loyalty to players and not wanting to throw them under the bus but BH is really looking like he's got his head in the sand when it comes to Reynolds and Gale.
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| Quote The Hollywood Frasier="The Hollywood Frasier"Quote The Hollywood Frasier="Chris71"What does seem a concern for me is the view of BH in relation to the Gale & Reynolds as according to the piece in the HDM he insists the partnership is still a work in progress
I really don’t think many would argue that on the evidence so far that’s just a fantasy. Let’s be honest these two aren’t young inexperienced players that are wet behind the ears and green. They are seasoned pros with a wealth of experience yet Ave so far delivered absolutely nothing and must be the worst HB in SL this season.'" There is loyalty to players and not wanting to throw them under the bus but BH is really looking like he's got his head in the sand when it comes to Reynolds and Gale.'"
HF, I totally agree and you could understand if he was talking about two younger green players but he isn't he is talking about two very experienced and seasoned professional players.
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"HF, I totally agree and you could understand if he was talking about two younger green players but he isn't he is talking about two very experienced and seasoned professional players.'" The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.
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| Quote Armavinit="Armavinit"OK.
1) Where did you get that information, I haven’t seen it.
2) What don’t you understand about bloody stupid players making bloody stupid decisions in game time. Gale and Reynolds have spent more time in the stands then any other 2 players.
3) Shaull’s past it full stop but there is an alternative, Wynne’s playing centre, INJURIES!!!
4) Your criticism of Kirk is paranoid at least, did he say something bad to your Mum? Or was that Griffin. You say he stole a living but Shaull and Bowden are doing the same plus Johnstone but we couldn’t move them on. If their in the playing pool you have to use them when we’ve got injuries. FFS Carlos has gone now, suppose you’ll bleat on about Mitch now.
One trick pony!!!!'"
Having now read Hodgson’s comments I find it strange to say the scoreline would have been the same with Connor? He can change a game in an instant. Think he was alluding to the fact that the forwards didn’t get the chance to dominate so chances were few and far between. Hodgson does seem a bit lost at the moment with the injuries but isn’t helping himself sticking with Reynolds. Just read a post saying he’s got his head in the sand, more like his hands.
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| Quote The Hollywood Frasier="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me.'"
To me, this decision alone is enough to see him gone. Hodgson must really undervalue SL to think Reynolds could offer more than your run of the mill championship halfback.
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| Quote The Hollywood Frasier="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.'"
HF
Do you have any theory, why we play our '6' on the right edge,than the left edge??
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| Quote weaver93="weaver93"HF
Do you have any theory, why we play our '6' on the right edge,than the left edge??
Cheers'"
Most halfbacks have a preference for one side. There can be a problem if both like the same side but that is usually a consideration when making signings
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| Quote The Hollywood Frasier="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.'"
I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.
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| Quote Marcus's Bicycle="Marcus's Bicycle"I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.'"
May be not
A loss at Warrington would really put him under pressure.
If he doesnt make the necessary changes at half back and we dont see an improvement to the on field indiscipline he may not make the end of the season
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"Just for some context on our indiscipline issue. These are the penalties conceded by both teams in our last few games:
Cats 8
Hull 7
Wakey 2
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We've conceded the 5th most penalties so far this season.'"
If you add six agains and errors i bet we are top of the league
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"If you add six agains and errors i bet we are top of the league'"
Well at least you get your wish of Griffin not playing the next one. One match ban. 
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"Quote bonaire="Marcus's Bicycle"I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.'"
May be not
A loss at Warrington would really put him under pressure.
If he doesnt make the necessary changes at half back and we dont see an improvement to the on field indiscipline he may not make the end of the season'"
Agree with what you say and a loss to what is probably one of the poorest performing Warrington sides during SL then I think that is a question that needs to be asked by AP. Hopefully he learnt the lesson of hanging on too long to a coach that failed to get the consistency in performances and move the club forward.
I have to say after the pitiful performance that the team served up at Cas when they were in a mess on the field I really don't have a lot of confidence of a result at the Halliwell Jones.
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| Quote weaver93="weaver93"HF
Do you have any theory, why we play our '6' on the right edge,than the left edge??
Cheers'" Reynolds has always been a right edge player and Gale the same with the left so in theory, it should be a good combo.
I don't like split halves full stop and hate teams obsession with 'finding the 40' to get a perceived advantage in numbers on the open side.
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| Quote Large Paws="Large Paws"Well at least you get your wish of Griffin not playing the next one. One match ban.
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He will hardly be missed
Its a pity he has another season on contract.
The club should try and move him on if possible as he is a fringe player now at best.
His lazy cant be bothered attitude this season stinks and cant be a good model for some of the younger players at the club.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"May be not
A loss at Warrington would really put him under pressure.
If he doesnt make the necessary changes at half back and we dont see an improvement to the on field indiscipline he may not make the end of the season'"
Are you going, I’ll get you on the bus.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"If you add six agains and errors i bet we are top of the league'"
We've got the second lowest error count in the league. 
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"We've got the second lowest error count in the league.
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six agains?
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"six agains?'"
I'd guess they're in with the penalties, but I'm sure you'll find something else to fit your narrative
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"I'd guess they're in with the penalties, but I'm sure you'll find something else to fit your narrative'"
Shouldnt be as six agains are not penalties and i dont have to fit our woeful indiscipline into my narrative, its plain to see for most people.
Stats dont tell the full story of the effects of the indiscipline.
If you watch this team they have a habit of finishing the last tackle in the opposition ten or twenty then on the first play give away a penalty which relieves any pressure we could have put on them.
Then following the kick to touch we usually double up with a six again and another set or two defending our own line.
Several have commented that the team is unfit, but its the weight of defending we have to do brought about by the teams indiscipline, whilst the opposition are relatively fresh as we have not put them under any pressure on their line either by finishing the set with a kick into the in goal forcing a drop out or forcing them to kick from deep through good disciplined defence.
Of course you would know that
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| Quote Riderofthepalehorse="Riderofthepalehorse"Are you going, I’ll get you on the bus.'"
Not a chance, doesn’t even attend home games, just listens to the radio, watch tv, reads all the reports and coach match reviews, then comes on here with diatribes, trying to make himself look important. Banging on about indiscipline, as I said, bloody stupid players, consistently doing bloody stupid errors. Didn’t Griffin score on Saturday but he’s still useless. Shaull’s finished but he advocates his inclusion. Meh, I give up on him, TROLL.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"Shouldnt be as six agains are not penalties and i dont have to fit our woeful indiscipline into my narrative, its plain to see for most people.
Stats dont tell the full story of the effects of the indiscipline.
If you watch this team they have a habit of finishing the last tackle in the opposition ten or twenty then on the first play give away a penalty which relieves any pressure we could have put on them.
Then following the kick to touch we usually double up with a six again and another set or two defending our own line.
Several have commented that the team is unfit, but its the weight of defending we have to do brought about by the teams indiscipline, whilst the opposition are relatively fresh as we have not put them under any pressure on their line either by finishing the set with a kick into the in goal forcing a drop out or forcing them to kick from deep through good disciplined defence.
Of course you would know that'"
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| we have to put up with him for the next fortnight to as we lost, soon as we win he will disappear. Mind you that might be awhile lol
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| Have you upset them all again bonaire hahahaha!!!!
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