If you snooze you lose.

In recent seasons we would have folded early and got a hammering. Still pleased with the start so far but worried about the injuries to the props.

Not sure who’s sadder, you or the people who think that’s funny, I did say if I was watching as a neutral fan. Good effort though

As I have just read on TRL forum you've got to admire Wigan's discipline.... in the eyes of the officials.

Connor head high tackle and he is sin binned. Farrell does the same and is only penalised.

Hull warned for offside at successive plays and a penalty. Wigan warned for markers not square at successive plays and only six again.

Child gave six again to Wigan on a couple of occasions only after Wigan players exaggeratedly complained.

Wigan consistently - and I’m not just talking about this game - move off the mark when playing the ball and the referee penalises the defending side for pushing them back.

Even the commentators referred to how offside Wigan were at the end but no action by the referee

More than any other team Wigan have learnt how to play referees.

Overall a good performance from Hull considering the above.

You try drafting a quick reply after 6 cans of export

I agree it’s nothing, and the game should be allowed to flow, referees are so pedantic when it suits them.



But in the instance were Jake is sin binned, Hardaker reaction pointing and stamping his feet, shouting etc, that part of the game should be dealt with,



Whats worse, Myler in a Leeds game telling the ref to fxxk off, or Hardaker acting like one of those stupid American wrestlers, hold me back, hold me back.

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At least give me one not from a journalist etc not that it matters, that game clearly wasn’t a classic

Really have a good feel of where we are heading under BH

Don’t think it’s necessarily about this year, but building for the years to come. He’s only signed one player as well. The defence tells me something about the change in culture.



We lost by two to a top team, but we still have plenty of improvement in us.



Onward and upward

What is Carlos’s injury?

Think he just went of for concussion test

With 8 days til the CC game he should hopefully be alright. Taylor is the big concern.

I think the final score flattered Hull and expect Wigan to win again next week.



It won't matter if Reynolds does or doesn't play your best chance of scoring will as ever be Sneyd's precision diagonal kicks to the wing and of course his brilliant goalkicking.

Andre Savelio mentions the reason for reporting Tony Clubb to the officials on his Twitter page [url=https://twitter.com/andresavelio/status/1387882021230366720?s=21here[/url. Hopefully it will be investigated thoroughly and the player concerned severely punished as no place for that in sport of life.

As I said before this game, a great defence is so important because it just keeps you in the fight. I thought Wigan looked the better team but we were always in the game because of our effort and structure in defence. If we can find a similar effort next week then I feel Reynolds could be the difference maker. McNamara looked a little bit rabbit in the headlights at times. Reynolds should give us much more composure and threat.

McNamara looked a little bit rabbit in the headlights at times.

Thats why there should be a change at 6 irrespective of whether Reynolds is fit or not

You cant blame young Ben but its obvious apart from one or two blinkered posters on here that since we lost Reynolds we have no structure to our attack,our last tackle options and kicks have been poor and the good work we did with kicks into the in goal and turning teams round by forcing a dropout has disappeared from our play.

you wont have even noticed Wiz that Griffin did move into the second row tonight

All good then cos he'll never make a SL centre or an England World Cup training squad.

Excellent effort and defence, we really didnt get many 50/50's, but our discipline really needs to improve.



We are still lacking the cutting edge, hopefully Reynolds is back next week, if not I'd still stick with McNamara, we don't have anyone else and Carlos or Houghton are not the answers at 6. The only thing I'd consider is Wynne to FB and Connor to 6, but I think I'd stick with McNamara.



Wigan probably deserved to pick, they created more chances and there halfbacks were excellent.



Our last tackle plays have to mprove, only 2 decent last tackle kicks the whole game..



Plenty of positives

It's really sad to see some Wigan fans replying to that tweet either justifying or excusing the comment, saying it's not racist or it's just banter. If one of our players did that I'd expect them to be clearing out their locker today and looking for a new club.



The pressure is on SLE and the RFL to show their campaigns and initiatives are not just for appearances but actually have some substance.

61 tackles for Joe Cator, HDM Star man and FC's MOM.

Cheers, I'm ever the optimist





Just think Reynolds brings a lot , and we l hopefully have too much for Wigan

It looks like Reynolds is back next week which is a big boost, but if he is missing again going forward I think I would persevere with Ben for now. I feel like he has something about him and he needs to keep being allowed to develop. This little run in the team will have been invaluable experience for him. Especially last night. You don't get to play in games of that intensity very often.

Reynolds plays we win, Connor sin binning doesn't happen if it's the other way round. When the Grub/Sneyd isn't fit play Macca he's only going to get better and learn whilst playing and will benefit us in the long run.