Maybe bitter was a bit strong a description but from your post you concentrated how poor Wigan were due to your intense rivalry without giving credit to Hull's performance.



We have not beaten any of the four biggest teams in SL in 17 attempts so to run Wigan close and in my opinion played well is a positive. Like Warrington we are a big club but have under achieved for years.



It was a poor crowd but a lot of Thursday night TV games are. We average 11k plus which in RL terms is creditable but in a 25k stadium it never looks full. Saints are a great club and have been far and away the best team in the league for the last few years but in my view Wigan historically are the biggest club in the game.



Nothing personal against you or your club just a bit miffed that you didn't give Hull any credit. I enjoy watching Saints play.

My bad,



shows how much I watch it, I don't have subscription TV so am limited to a few highlights. Still think the 10m is more evident in the NRL

Quote bonaire="bonaire"Our right edge has been strong and although Lovodua missed the tackle Connor should have stopped Field One of my points was surrounding Connor Wynne and why he was on the bench following his MOM last week yet an underperforming Griffin offers nothing other than making a few metres out of backfield.He is slow, offers very little in attack and time and time again is found wanting in defence which fans on seem to ignore. We have a rookie in Mitch playing right centre who has good defence and last night made a break then a one handed pass to Lovodua who then put Houghton in for a try.Could Griffin do that?no I agree we are heading in the right direction and Hodgsons bench selection at times is poor but even though you are a senior player if you are underperforming you should be replaced if we have a player available'" We'll just agree to disagree about Griffin. He's not Jamie Lyon, but I think you're doing his skill set a disservice. Mitch could've jammed in on Field to stop the break too. https://youtu.be/MB2wcGiW7vo

Quote bonaire="bonaire"Our right edge has been strong and although Lovodua missed the tackle Connor should have stopped Field One of my points was surrounding Connor Wynne and why he was on the bench following his MOM last week yet an underperforming Griffin offers nothing other than making a few metres out of backfield.He is slow, offers very little in attack and time and time again is found wanting in defence which fans on seem to ignore. We have a rookie in Mitch playing right centre who has good defence and last night made a break then a one handed pass to Lovodua who then put Houghton in for a try.Could Griffin do that?no I agree we are heading in the right direction and Hodgsons bench selection at times is poor but even though you are a senior player if you are underperforming you should be replaced if we have a player available'" We'll just agree to disagree about Griffin. He's not Jamie Lyon, but I think you're doing his skill set a disservice. Mitch could've jammed in on Field to stop the break too. https://youtu.be/MB2wcGiW7vo

You sure about Wire?

Said it might take a while

Oooo you can't criticise Connor to our fans



He's the best full back in super league according to dave and Chris





They never notice his many f*ck ups!

Maybe not the best fullback in SL but definitely the best fullback at hullfc and that's a fact

Maybe, but Jamie Shaul had a good game in 2017.

Jake is a 6 - simple as that



I’d play Wynne at 1

That win against Hudds look pretty decent now

Not even close to the best full back in super league



Field, French, Tompkins all far better even lomax is better at full back than Connor



Oh shaul would of tackled field last night fact.... So basically we'd have still been in front

But shaul was a big game player



Connor always flops in the biggest games saints semi, last night, Wigan away last season



Connor would be a world beater if we was allowed to play Wakefield or Salford 28 games a year instead of saints Wigan etc but we can't

Even you can't believe the stuff you type.



We just forgetting Shauls form in 'big games' from 2018 to 2020.

I personally don’t think Connor is best fb at our club. His lack of pace and poor temperament really doesn’t cut it for me. You look at the professional culture at saints then compare to our squad.

We have 3 big egos in the pivots

Connor Reynolds Gale.

As the wigan game showed our lack of composure in a tight game let us down



Fans get caught up in the stats that connor has the most try assists ..

Flip side is that we run our attack through him and him alone ..

Until he does it in the “ big “ games against the big teams then he won’t make England’s number 1 full back

Apart from a 1 semi we didn't have no big games in that period as we underachieved big time



People like you ignoring Connors big mistakes all the time is both weird and bizarre esp in big games like I said

Put into context , cats had disastrous journey to Hudds. Straights off flight & coach with a 20 min warm up..

wrap up Lolohea and they have no attack threat.

Exactly



Apart from passing a ball and a kicking game that's the only things Connor has over Shaul



Shaul is miles faster, has a support play, brilliant in broken field, better defender all the things you need to be full back



Connors defence is just embarrassing at times for a full back and it's costing us a lot



Basically teams break our line these days they score!

this is the Emperors clothes



Jake is not a FB - not as long as I have a hole in my back passage



No pace - questionable tacking technique - no experience in his life of being a FB - he probably doesn’t even like it



He’s a 6 - end of



for those old enough - it’s like playing Toppo or John Newlove at FB because they’re good ball handlers



I’d deffo have Wynne in and move Jake to 6 and next season save Grubs money to pay off debts, as per 21 accounts.

How well did Shaul play 'big games' the last few seasons, when he was the starting full back?



(In league games against Wigan & Saints)



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What's bizarre & weird is people like you who can't see how limited Shaul is as a modern day full back.



I've no doubt you'll mention how Shaul scored at Wembley 6 years ago, which we're all greatful for, but it doesn't change the fact that Shaul was a part of our problems towards the end of Radfords reign.



Plus Shaul missed his fair share of tackles too. You're making out he was a brick wall after an opponent made a break. If anything it was the opposite with us shipping massive points from 2017 onwards on a pretty regular basis.

Thst's not a fact, it purely hypothetical.

So in your opinion who is the best fullback at FC then?

1st look on here since the game, no way should we have lost that game. Game management at the end was very poor, Sneyd would have directed the team to get him in front of the posts for a DG, Connor and Gale couldn't do that. Those two loose passes from Connor in the last 10 were very poor. All game I thought Connor was trying too hard. Hopefully he'll learn from it. I'm convinced if we had made that tackle on Jai Field we would have won.



Focussing on positives, Lovodua was superb. Brown, Fash and Johnstone put in great stints, Mau gets better every week and Sao and Satae performed well. We've the makings of a decent top four side, onto the Cup and a few beers in Magic Rock brewery.

Connor isnt the best FB in the league like you'll said I said, which i never had and he has flaws, but the positives far outweigh the negatives and unless we sign a better FB than Shaul or Wynne, who neither have the skill set to be a modern FB he has to stay there particularly with the options we have at halfback.



What I find funny is that you haven't posted on here for the last few games and as soon as Connor does something wrong you are on here in shot, that's easy to do, but you didn't post after Leeds and other games.

See Houghton is being back to being flogged, when you have another hooker on the bench (although not a very good one) use him at hooker.

Brett Hodgson