agree with both, people have been far too happy to applaud Horne because he's a Hull lad, yes he is devoted and FC to the core, he's also been paid, on average, £100k a year for at least 5 years, that is HALF A MILLION POUNDS, people need to start being honest, even 2 more years at full bak he'll get £70k a year (minimum), I would imagine, with testemonials and other years in the squad he'll have take £1m off FC for his services over the years, nice work if you can get it.



(and I am NOT calling Richard, he is a good player, but he hasn't been worth £1m+ over his RL career)

Pleased about Horney going to f/back, he is excellent under the high ball and appears to have got a bit of his speed back this season.

Maybe there are some legs in the Finch rumour

I think this is a good decision all round. Horne is not the player he was, but is still a good SL level fullback, and is a good runner in broken play. Moving to fullback will also potentially extend his SL career by another few years.



It now gives the club the opportunity to bring in a top class no6, and add much needed pace and creativity in to our halves.

Horne to FB, Seymour to SO and a new scrum half sounds good to me though im not convinced Hornes body could cope with the rigours of being a full back.

I could be a good move for Horne as well. Probably a less physical workload at fullback may keep him from picking up any more injuries . Good move imo.

Not this again. I've been one of Horne's staunchest defenders and I'm not even [ifrom[/i Hull. Possibly people just have a different opinion of him to yours?

finch is overated.

One thing people seem to be forgetting is how much we've missed Horne's defence since he's been out. Playing at FB we'll have to find someone else to do that defensive work and it doesn't look like either Niklas or Ellis are up to it ATM.

Were you at the Wigan game ? Bossed the show.

yes ,against an a team.

Don't know how you can say Finch is over rated. Arguably the best 6 in the league.

Quote Kosh="Kosh"One thing people seem to be forgetting is how much we've missed Horne's defence since he's been out. Playing at FB we'll have to find someone else to do that defensive work and it doesn't look like either Niklas or Ellis are up to it ATM.'" There are a few things we have missed,(mainly the meters he makes) however it is not his defensive work, he has played 1 more game than Ellis and he has only made 28 more tackles www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012

Quote Kosh="Kosh"One thing people seem to be forgetting is how much we've missed Horne's defence since he's been out. Playing at FB we'll have to find someone else to do that defensive work and it doesn't look like either Niklas or Ellis are up to it ATM.'" There are a few things we have missed,(mainly the meters he makes) however it is not his defensive work, he has played 1 more game than Ellis and he has only made 28 more tackles www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012

I agree

finch has been playing for wigan for 2 years now,just my opinion but still dont think hes out special.seymour has been playing 4 hull 4 just 11games,until injuries struck we were in the top 2,yet some people cant wait to get rid.

Most, where do you get that from ?



I have read a few who are still undecided, me included however most are aware it is early days and the best maybe yet to come.

Finch was brilliant against us, everything went through him and he create so much space and time it was unreal. Like I said Finch is a great player and regularly runs the show, would be a brilliant signing for us only downside is his age. But someone like Finch I don't think that it should stop us this time around.



Seymour is getting abit of stick, but imo he has done good and we shouldn't be looking to get rid. We finally have a 7 who can string more than 2 games together, isn't held together by tape and has a good kicking game etc. He's 27 and had multiple half back partners. Been a good signing for me and look forward to seeing him for atleast a couple more seasons with Hull FC.

I haven't seen anyone giving Seymour 'stick', particularly. He's a good 7 in the same way that Horne is a good 6.

Could be a good move, but also means another season of a new halfback pairing getting used to each other. As I said in another thread, with this much rebuilding and likely another season of transition in store, I would like to see Gentle add at least another year to his stay. I'm more than prepared to be patient and see this scale of work done, as it is the best thing in the long run, but if we're being asked to give Gentle time I'd just feel a little more reassured to know that he's determined to see it through properly and hang around.

Quote Bet Lynch="Bet Lynch"There are a few things we have missed,(mainly the meters he makes) however it is not his defensive work, he has played 1 more game than Ellis and he has only made 28 more tackles www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012'" You rely on stats way too much. Horne misses fewer tackles, has better positioning, and tackles better. Just comparing the number of tackles made tells only part of the story. I'm going to take a leaf out of your old book and rely on what I've seen watching all the games.

Quote Bet Lynch="Bet Lynch"There are a few things we have missed,(mainly the meters he makes) however it is not his defensive work, he has played 1 more game than Ellis and he has only made 28 more tackles www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012'" You rely on stats way too much. Horne misses fewer tackles, has better positioning, and tackles better. Just comparing the number of tackles made tells only part of the story. I'm going to take a leaf out of your old book and rely on what I've seen watching all the games.

there you go, thinking green username =more important opinion



it wasn't aimed at you Kosh, sometimes we talk to the other 99.99% of posters who aren't mods.

Wrong choice of word I suppose but I have seen people commenting things such as, "Thought he had a good kicking game?", Poor defensively at the beginning of the season, Slow passing etc.



Which I think is harsh and I would be more than happy seeing Seymour as our 7 for the near future. As I can't see us signing better. Although I did read that Mitchell Pearce could be available, but we won't be signing NSW's current 7 will we.

I think Sebasteeno could be on the right track, find a scrum half and move Seymour to stand off.



Either way though, bringing in a quality halfback partner could be enough for him to shine more. I do agree with what you're saying, both of our half backs are 'good'. That's not really enough to compete for trophies, but on the other hand few of the succesful sides over here have had 2 genuinely top quality halves, so if we can get hold of one and get a bit more out of Seymour we could be laughing.

i said some,not most.

Does the size of that chip affect your balance?

I like the idea of Horne at full back, a steadying influence and reliable.



If this means a top class half back coming in, even better.