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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"We were still clueless first 20 mins ball in hand in their 20.Once the confidence kicked in only one team in it.
Sneyd the big difference tonight for me.like Pryce took the ball to the line and created some space.
If we are going to be short on forwards next week id push Yeaman into the second row and play Logan as we need some pace at left centre.
A good centre and =#0000FFTalanoa would be a leading try scorer.
What do we do with Rankin as his is too good to leave out.'"
Speaking of him, how quick did he look to force that dropout? Think that's the fastest I've seen him move, great stuff.
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| first 15-20 minutes we looked clueless, we needed a bit of luck and got it as we probably wouldn't have gone in 22-10.
first try gave us confidence to step up and throw the ball around more
still making brain farts though, we should never had let the last try in the first half half
as for bentham, probably the worst referee we have now roby has gone! 2 catalan tries gift wrapped from phil
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| Quote number 6="number 6"first 15-20 minutes we looked clueless, we needed a bit of luck and got it as we probably wouldn't have gone in 22-10.
first try gave us confidence to step up and throw the ball around more
still making brain farts though, we should never had let the last try in the first half half
as for bentham, probably the worst referee we have now roby has gone! 2 catalan tries gift wrapped from phil'"
Quite agree about Bentham and this is not sour grapes because we won. He really is awful.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Which one? The Catalan 'knock on'?'"
I'm not sure now - there were so many to choose from.
Think this was when our player (Houghton?) was taken out off the ball and Bentham let Cats score a try instead of blowing up.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I'm not sure now - there were so many to choose from.

Think this was when our player (Houghton?) was taken out off the ball and Bentham let Cats score a try instead of blowing up.'"
That was the worst one, even more annoying he penalised us for doing it moments later, even if it was the correct call
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans will play without Todd Carney (broken ribs) and Benjamin Pomeroy (suspended). But Catalans should still win.'"
And you would of but for the fact your total merde!
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I'm not sure now - there were so many to choose from.

Think this was when our player (Houghton?) was taken out off the ball and Bentham let Cats score a try instead of blowing up.'"
The only thing I wasn't sure about with the Houghton one was whether he'd adjudged Houghton to already knock before the contact (if it's the incident I'm thinking of).
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"The only thing I wasn't sure about with the Houghton one was whether he'd adjudged Houghton to already knock before the contact (if it's the incident I'm thinking of).'"
Maybe. But given the apalling hash he made of just about every aspect of the game I'm not inclined to give him the BoD.
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| I know people don't like to give credit to Yeaman but I was pleased to see him pass the ball to his winger. He was so surprised that he fell over. Who says you can't teach an old dog the basics? Well done to the coaching staff and Kirk, keep it up.
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| Quote hull2524="hull2524"Good win. Some on here are just never ever happy.'"
The truth is there are some on here who are not happy simply because we won and were hoping for a defeat to fuel the Radford out. The top line is we won and for most the game we dominated. There were some improved performances from many and without doubt Pryce has answered all his critics. Sneyd his best game yet but could have been better if not for two glaring mistakes. Houghton who i think has really come in for some harsh criticism had a stormer but for me he very rarely lets us down. Yet again Yeaman gets flack and for what? He defended really well has he always does and made telling passes. If you expect to see a game were nobody makes a mistakes then I have watched for over 50yrs and still waiting for that to happen.When any side play as poor like we did in the second half against Leeds then they deserve all the flack. Last night we saw a great effort from the lads against a very physical Catalan side with no help from the ref and for me it it showed the players and staff have the determination and skill to produce wins. Dont get me wrong one swallow does not make a summer but it helps.
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| Good win last night. Bit of a stuttering first 20 but the Catalans defence was well organised on their line and there was a bit of a lack of confidence on our part. Not many SL teams rollover within 20 mins of the start of a game and we stuck at it despite their initial score. Thought the halves worked their way into the game and as Dave K said they look much better when working as a pair rather than glued to one side of the pitch or the other. Sneyd's kicking game was well up at the required standard as well which was a big improvement. The attacking shape improved as we went along and we moved the ball at pace most of the time. We still have a deep and static (almost ponderous) ball shift in us which needs to be eradicated. Biggest worry will now be the quality of the team we can muster against Cas.
As for the referee he'll want to forget that game. He and his 'team' missed countless offside players when Catalans kicked in the second half. He failed to police the ruck correctly and ignored goal line offside players. Not really a good enough performance for a SL referee.
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| We won a very ugly match last night, The Cats at times where brutal and I expect a raft of charges come Monday. We dominated the match and should have had it put to bed by halftime. We gifted them points and failed so many time to add precious points when we had them rocking, we simply lacked punch in attack for long periods another kick into the corner it is then. I do know Radders was not too impressed last night with the overall performance and we play like we did in the first twenty against most teams and we will find our selves well behind the 8 ball. I am not knocking them last night in patches they did try and put things together, it was two points after all. But we can find oursleves back at the bottom by this time on Sunday and that is the point its going to be a long long season.
Most of us are honest we will end up at the bottom end of the division as climbing out of the hole is a hard task, not impossible but with the continuing injuries we alone seem to get week on week. Last nights game asked more questions then it answered, but happy with the two points and praying that this can be the catalyst to help us kick on.
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| Highlights are up on the Catalans YouTube channel.
Solid first 20, got through our work and completed at 100%. Then we injected some pace in to our game and scored some lovely tries. How on earth the 3rd Catalans try was allowed to stand I'll never know, although Rankins pass to Lineham for his second looked 'suspect'.
I was more than happy to see Sneyd try something after the hooter in the 1st half, we bemoan a lack of adventure from our team all the time and if they can't do it at 22-6 up when can they? We attempt that another 100 times we don't concede from it, it was just bad luck.
All our forwards did well & Jordan Thompson's pace really does give us something through the middle. Nice to see Watts & Thompson trying to run down Escare for his try, never going to catch him in a month of Sunday's, but great to see the effort. Michaels pace at centre showed again why we need something similar on the left side.
All in all a decent win and good to see a pair of halves working together, plenty to work at but plenty to build on.
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| Well pleased with the result (and the performance) last night. Quite a few candidates for MOM and I personally would have given it to Leon who is certainly proving he didn't come just to top up his pension pot. We really have to find a way to make sure Rankin starts every game and I would be happy to see him in one of the centre spots. Hope our injuries aren't as severe as they looked last night, although Gaz Ellis seemed to be really suffering when he went off. Lets see what the next few days bring.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Highlights are up on the Catalans YouTube channel.
Solid first 20, got through our work and completed at 100%. Then we injected some pace in to our game and scored some lovely tries. How on earth the 3rd Catalans try was allowed to stand I'll never know, although Rankins pass to Lineham for his second looked 'suspect'.
I was more than happy to see Sneyd try something after the hooter in the 1st half, we bemoan a lack of adventure from our team all the time and if they can't do it at 22-6 up when can they? We attempt that another 100 times we don't concede from it, it was just bad luck.
All our forwards did well & Jordan Thompson's pace really does give us something through the middle. Nice to see Watts & Thompson trying to run down Escare for his try, never going to catch him in a month of Sunday's, but great to see the effort. Michaels pace at centre showed again why we need something similar on the left side.
All in all a decent win and good to see a pair of halves working together, plenty to work at but plenty to build on.'"
Good summary. In regards to the first 20 mins we were a little bit hesitant but it surprises me how many people think that a SL side (some pundits' top 4 choice) will roll over that early in a game and be easy to score against. They were well drilled on their goal line defence and deserve credit for that. The work done in the first 20 went a long way to ensuring we were able to win the game fairly easily in the end.
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| What was Pryce sin binned for? Was it dissent? This was another thing that annoyed me with Bentham last night; Henderson was often in the referees face and then not long after we get marched 10 yards and then Pryce sin binned.
Is there any doubt over the legitimacy of Talanoa's challenge on Escare? My view was a bit obscured but it almost looked like he slid in, feet first.
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| Pryce knocked the ball away as it was been thrown to a Cats player.
Probably worth a yellow card at that stage of the game.
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| Quote simon_tem="simon_tem"What was Pryce sin binned for? Was it dissent? This was another thing that annoyed me with Bentham last night; Henderson was often in the referees face and then not long after we get marched 10 yards and then Pryce sin binned.
Is there any doubt over the legitimacy of Talanoa's challenge on Escare? My view was a bit obscured but it almost looked like he slid in, feet first.'"
It was accidental. Talanoa caught Escare's lower back with his knee but it was because Escare tried to dodge his way out of the challenge. No way was it deliberate.
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| Quote simon_tem="simon_tem"What was Pryce sin binned for? Was it dissent? This was another thing that annoyed me with Bentham last night; Henderson was often in the referees face and then not long after we get marched 10 yards and then Pryce sin binned.
Is there any doubt over the legitimacy of Talanoa's challenge on Escare? My view was a bit obscured but it almost looked like he slid in, feet first.'"
I think there is, they replayed it on Cats channel in slow motion. Would be a disaster if he copped a ban mind with Shaul, Lineham, Ellis, Green, Westerman all doubts and Whiting and Sa definitely out.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"Good summary. In regards to the first 20 mins we were a little bit hesitant but =#0000BFit surprises me how many people think that a SL side (some pundits' top 4 choice) will roll over that early in a game and be easy to score against. They were well drilled on their goal line defence and deserve credit for that. The work done in the first 20 went a long way to ensuring we were able to win the game fairly easily in the end.'"
I don't think anyone expects a SL team to be easy to score against, but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless. Yes, some of the Catalan defence was good and deserved credit, but some poor and predictable attacking play from us also contributed.
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| Shall is fit to play just been kept out last two matches by Rankin
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless.'"
Probably happens fairly often. I'm not claiming we're a good attacking side at all but at the start of games when players are fresher it's not that unusual.
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| Quote Punos="Punos"Shall is fit to play just been kept out last two matches by Rankin'"
Don't you mean by Yeaman?
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"I don't think anyone expects a SL team to be easy to score against, but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless. Yes, some of the Catalan defence was good and deserved credit, but some poor and predictable attacking play from us also contributed.'"
A team that had given the 2nd half display Catalan did last week are bound to be putting extra effort in.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"A team that had given the 2nd half display Catalan did last week are bound to be putting extra effort in.'"
I dont think it was the extra effort in defence by Catalans in the first 20 mins but more a poor Hull attack.
At no point did the Catalans defence become stretched or look desperate they handled a pretty poor Hull attack comfortably. We attacked like a team with no confidence for the first 20 mins. Also the Yeaman scoot from dummy half is only acceptable in our own 20 clearing the lines when under pressure imo it offers nothing other then a wasted tackle and breather for the opposition if done in their half of the pitch!
The 2nd and 3rd tries gave Hull the attacking confidence and you could visibly see the players suddenly want the ball more with Jordan Rankin starting looking like the full back we knew he could be.
Thought Rankin was very good linking into the attack and Lineham will hope he stays at fullback for the service. Thompson is really impressive with his pace and aggression in the middle and I like how Pryce controls the game in the middle.
Would still be tempted to find a place for Shaul on the wing in a similar vien to Russell at Warry and move Talanoa to centre or even Curtis Naughton if Talanoa gets a ban.
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