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| Quote Oldham Rhino="Oldham Rhino"I agree with what you are saying. I do feel sorry for you and hope if you do complain you get somewhere. Certain fixtures can be moved easily. This I suppose isn't one because of all the security issues around it.'"
You are a fine one to talk, what about the Whinos playing Wigan at same time as cricket? your club reduced your capacity to 10k, you could not even sell that out
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| My first child is due on the 15th of july, having planned my procreation to coincide with the derby game ( i.e i would of had ample time to witness birth name child etc etc. ) I am now in the unfortunate position that i may not be able to witness my firstborn being brought into the world, much worse the missus will punish me by dressing him/her in red and white babygro's 
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| Quote Hull Kingston Convicts="Hull Kingston Convicts"You are a fine one to talk, what about the Whinos playing Wigan at same time as cricket? your club reduced your capacity to 10k, you could not even sell that out'"
But the crowd was actually similar to recent challenge cup ties at Headingley between the two clubs. Jog on sunshine.
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| Well i'm glad the clipper race is stopping it from being on the saturday, it's the lads birthday on the 17th and the mrs wouldn't of been happy with me missing half the party so i'm lucky it has been moved forward than back.
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| Quote hfc herts="hfc herts"I am personally so glad that I have amused you. To some of us we care passionatly about waching and supporting our club and try our hardest to see them and also consider others. I am so pleased you are ok Jack.'"
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| Quote Ian P="Ian P"[size=200Illegitimis non Carborundum[/size'"
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| Quote Standee="Standee"there is no Sky fee'"
Is there not? Used to be under the previous contract to compensate clubs for reduced attendances
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| Quote windymiller="windymiller"My first child is due on the 15th of july, having planned my procreation to coincide with the derby game ( i.e i would of had ample time to witness birth name child etc etc. ) I am now in the unfortunate position that i may not be able to witness my firstborn being brought into the world, much worse the missus will punish me by dressing him/her in red and white babygro's
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TBF, very few babies are born on their due date...I look forward to the announcement telling you to get your backside to HRI!!! At least it's just round the corner lol!!! 
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| Quote hfc herts="hfc herts"This is not a my cats blacker than your cat situation. This is about 16000 people buying tickets / passes for a Friday night game. Of those a fare proportion will have made arrangements to swap shifts, get baby sitters make travel arrangements etc. That plus a club who have been bigging this match u big style to ensure we get our tickets early to avoid disappointment. Then 3 weeks before hand 16000 people are expected to drop everything and make alternative arrangements.
Rhinos vs Oldham might affect a couple of hundred people. Hull Salford may affect a few thousand, Hull Rovers affects the biggest crowd of the season. It should have been sorted before tickets went on sale. Quote the RFL all you like it does not make it morally correct. And certainly not the actons of an organisation which is constantly trying to attract new supporters.
I am sure the RFL and Sky are acting within their agreements but do you seriously think this is something that we as fans should just say " ah well 5h1t happens from time to time" because I for one and I am sure I am not the only one am getting somewhat sick of this being done at the expense of loyal supporters of any club.'"
Maybe the benefits of showcasing the game to, say, 1/2 million people (just an example, I don't have a clue how many watch games on SKY) outweighs the needs of a small number of fans who have been put out.
9500 of your quoted 16000 ticket holders bought their tickets before they even knew what month the game would be played in and another 4000 or so are rovers fans who don't count anyway.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Is there not? Used to be under the previous contract to compensate clubs for reduced attendances'"
It used to be £20-25k a match, it was dropped years ago about the time of the mergers and the money was divided equally between the clubs.
Instead of Wigan, Leeds Saints and Bradford copping for most of it 
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Maybe the benefits of showcasing the game to, say, 1/2 million people (just an example, I don't have a clue how many watch games on SKY) outweighs the needs of a small number of fans who have been put out.
9500 of your quoted 16000 ticket holders bought their tickets before they even knew what month the game would be played in and another 4000 or so are rovers fans who don't count anyway.'"
You pi$$ people around at your peril of course and FC have known about this for a few weeks and said ................... nothing and another PR home goal
You could argue that they could not until had been finalised with the police, but they might have had a bit of customer care and issued a statement.
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| Thats it i give up with this club..
I now live in London and dont get home to often, so when i saw this game was on a Friday i thought id have a long weekend at home. I also invited my 2 housemates one from Belfast the other Penzance who have never seen a game live or on the TV. So now we have paid in excess of £100 for train tickets with no chance of a refund. Thats it im done... 
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| I'm happy, day off Thursday, so got tickets sorted today, from and to West Yorkshire, last train back to Leeds, after demolishing red scum 
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| Like it or not, Sky plough a huge amount of money into our sport and therefore, as somebody else has already pointed out, call the tune. The RFL are clearly happy with that situation and therefore the clubs must accept that things like this will occur from time to time. I also don't subscribe to the "Hull FC must have known about it for ages" notion either. Up to this morning, the Sky live RL fixtures for that weekend were still "to be confirmed". If I was in marketing at Sky and knew the Hull derby was being shown, I'd have wanted it known to Joe Public as soon as possible.
Also, to those folk who are complaining about already having bought train tickets and are struggling to get a refund?, well I'm guessing you got them in advance to save a few quid. Fair enough, but there's always a risk in doing this to save money. How did you know your own circumstances wouldn't change? If you'd waited and bought the tickets at the station on the day, you wouldn't have a problem. Harsh maybe, but sometimes life is unfortunately.
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| Quote old frightful="old frightful"Like it or not, Sky plough a huge amount of money into our sport and therefore, as somebody else has already pointed out, call the tune. The RFL are clearly happy with that situation and therefore the clubs must accept that things like this will occur from time to time. I also don't subscribe to the "Hull FC must have known about it for ages" notion either. Up to this morning, the Sky live RL fixtures for that weekend were still "to be confirmed". If I was in marketing at Sky and knew the Hull derby was being shown, I'd have wanted it known to Joe Public as soon as possible.
Also, to those folk who are complaining about already having bought train tickets and are struggling to get a refund?, well I'm guessing you got them in advance to save a few quid. Fair enough, but there's always a risk in doing this to save money. How did you know your own circumstances wouldn't change? If you'd waited and bought the tickets at the station on the day, you wouldn't have a problem. Harsh maybe, but sometimes life is unfortunately.'"
Well said. I do have sympathy for people who will miss the game because of this but the way people are crying and moaning about it as if they've been morally wronged is ridiculous.
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| can go now  after finally sortin a baby sitter out after a major headache, just wish Sky wud of decided earlier that they wanted to show the game.
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| Quote Ian P="Ian P"[size=200Illegitimis non Carborundum[/size'"
I think they already have mate.
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| Quote inanykindofweather="inanykindofweather"Thats it i give up with this club..
I now live in London and dont get home to often, so when i saw this game was on a Friday i thought id have a long weekend at home. I also invited my 2 housemates one from Belfast the other Penzance who have never seen a game live or on the TV. So now we have paid in excess of £100 for train tickets with no chance of a refund. Thats it im done...
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That's a shame. Why don't you start supporting quins instead?
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| Quote old frightful="old frightful"Like it or not, Sky plough a huge amount of money into our sport and therefore, as somebody else has already pointed out, call the tune. The RFL are clearly happy with that situation and therefore the clubs must accept that things like this will occur from time to time. I also don't subscribe to the "Hull FC must have known about it for ages" notion either. Up to this morning, the Sky live RL fixtures for that weekend were still "to be confirmed". If I was in marketing at Sky and knew the Hull derby was being shown, I'd have wanted it known to Joe Public as soon as possible.
Also, to those folk who are complaining about already having bought train tickets and are struggling to get a refund?, well I'm guessing you got them in advance to save a few quid. Fair enough, but there's always a risk in doing this to save money. How did you know your own circumstances wouldn't change? If you'd waited and bought the tickets at the station on the day, you wouldn't have a problem. Harsh maybe, but sometimes life is unfortunately.'"
Have you seen the price of train tickets if purchased on the day?
Have you seen all the promiotion this game has received from the club ? Get your tickets early "avoid disappointment" etc etc.
For me its £25 to get a ticket. Tickets on the day for a train are close to £100 oh and an employer which will not stand for me ringing in on match day saying I am not coming in Hull FC are playing.
This is not something I do once a year to watch us against the dobbins this is a process I go through for every match I attend home and away, and have done for 20 years now. So naturally I feel very let down. I am increasingly feeling let down as this was never the case 2 or three years ago. It is now happening two or three time a season.
Add to that three kids a wife, mortgage etc etc and I think its possibly more sensible for me to make plans in advance. But hey this forum and sensible at times are not soul mates are they.
A little honesty from people running the game and the club from time to time may well be appreciated by those of us who can't just drop everything at a moments notice.
Shall I put myself and my family through this again ? I am seriously begining to doubt it.
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| Quote hfc herts="hfc herts"Have you seen the price of train tickets if purchased on the day?
Have you seen all the promiotion this game has received from the club ? Get your tickets early "avoid disappointment" etc etc.
For me its £25 to get a ticket. Tickets on the day for a train are close to £100 oh and an employer which will not stand for me ringing in on match day saying I am not coming in Hull FC are playing.
This is not something I do once a year to watch us against the dobbins this is a process I go through for every match I attend home and away, and have done for 20 years now. So naturally I feel very let down. I am increasingly feeling let down as this was never the case 2 or three years ago. It is now happening two or three time a season.
Add to that three kids a wife, mortgage etc etc and I think its possibly more sensible for me to make plans in advance. But hey this forum and sensible at times are not soul mates are they.
A little honesty from people running the game and the club from time to time may well be appreciated by those of us who can't just drop everything at a moments notice.
Shall I put myself and my family through this again ? I am seriously begining to doubt it.'"
Honestly mate, I think you need a bit of perspective. It's only a game
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"That's a shame. Why don't you start supporting quins instead?'"
 What a f-ing ridiciulous response.
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| Quote Bal="Bal"eusa_eh.gif What a f-ing ridiciulous response.'"
Not as ridiculous as the post I was responding to though
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| Quote inanykindofweather="inanykindofweather"Thats it i give up with this club..
I now live in London and dont get home to often, so when i saw this game was on a Friday i thought id have a long weekend at home. I also invited my 2 housemates one from Belfast the other Penzance who have never seen a game live or on the TV. So now we have paid in excess of £100 for train tickets with no chance of a refund. Thats it im done...
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Feel sorry for you mate. I'd write a letter to Hull FC and explain your situation, I don't imagine for a second they'll refund your tickets for you, however they might try and help you out in other ways, game vouchers etc.
For what its worth, this decision means that I also can't attend the game as I'm away on business that day. Very frustrating.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Not as ridiculous as the post I was responding to though'"
Are you on drugs?
The lad is upset because he has shelled out a hundred quid or more to come all the way from London to support his club and you call him "ridiculous". You need your head checked out.
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It is only one game but as I have said it is increasingly more difficult to plan for any game. That is my problem. Oh and also the rest of us who do not live in the Hull area.It is also a problem for which I know the solution though I will find that solution very hard to handle in time I will accept it.
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