why they don't just take a couple of CC employees down and a police officer and just bolt cut the locks off and issue them with a fine god only knows if you drop a cig in town they issue you with a fine on the spot but someone blocks a public footpath and they do nothing its unbelievable

Oh dear. Well if there’s any slight legal possibility of that I think we know what the outcome would be.

What has permeated through the various and many discussions about this over the years is that perhaps they can't kick us out at that point because we have some protection for the second 25 years of our lease as the tenant, but they can at that point review our terms and conditions and perhaps impose different ones on us, which could make our tenure extremely difficult if not impossible.

I know originally we would have recourse to the Council in such circumstances but the SMC's lease seems now to be so water tight as far as the councils lack of input is concerned (probably because the authorities fears of having to maintain the place and the revenue costs that would accrue on them has seen them sign away any control, in exchange for the responsibility for maintenance shifting to the SMC re what happened with the arena) that I think that the existence of our club is under threat at that point myself.

That’s reassuring.

How far off are we from this - 10 years?

Its a worry but hopefully Allam will have croaked it by then. Does anyone know if the running of the SMC itself up for re-negotiation at this point?

I don't have such an extreme hope, I hope they've sold it by then!