Spot on. All Widnes did today to win that game was score a drop goal. We gifted them a try, and conceded the penalty that got them to six points. We also commenced to bomb quite a few chances.
Nout to do with team selection really is it?

If we lose to Saford on Friday, then get knocked out of the cup by them its hard to see where our next win is coming from.

We are already in that part of the season (starting with the Bradford game) when we were supposed to pick up points to help us through the difficult period later on and we have 2 points out of 6.

The injuries are not Radford's fault, although his curious team selection, Agaresque use of substitutes and the way he has handled some of the players clearly are.

Getting rid of him mid-season won't be easy simply because who is there out there to replace him with?

However if we fail to make the play-offs then he has to go at the end of the season IMO. If what Gentle achieved was unacceptable I don't see why Radford should be allowed to get away with delivering less.

Lots of knee jerking going on here. We have lost 4 games by a total of 24 points. Two were games we weren't expected to win, one was away to a very decent and unbeaten team, and as awful as the Widnes game was, every coach we have had in my time watching the team has overseen games like that. Not to mention our pack has been ravaged by injury and suspension.

Radford has made mistakes, I'm not an expert on coaching, if I was I wouldn't be typing this, but I can see that there are elements of our team selection that are not working. However there are also things that he has improved. We need a big response next week though, a loss to Salford and it's looking like a long season all of a sudden.

The guy has coached 6 games of Super League. The game previous to his first (just seven games ago) was lost by 76 points to 18 under the previous coach Peter Gentle. The team that day was ...

Shaul
Crookes
Horne
Yeaman
Briscoe
Holdsworth
Miller
Watts
Houghton
Johnson
Ellis
Tickle
Westerman

Lynch
Heremaia
Green
Pitts

The players in bold have played at least one game this season. Both Miller and Pitts played in that embarrassment and Heremaia was at replacement hooker. So maybe Radford has attempted to change a few things around from this [urecent[/u humiliation as he starts out his tenure as coach. I haven't agreed with all of his selections and would like to see Heremaia back on the bench and Miller playing. When we have all of our forwards available this year's pack looks miles stronger than the one above and has looked good at times this year. The backs were weak last year and are weak now there can be no doubt about that especially after last Sunday.

I have no idea whether Radford will make it as our coach or not but I don't blame him whatsoever for having his own ideas and trying to change things to prevent such a shambles occurring again. It's not going to be turned around after a few games and to call for yet another change of coach now is ridiculous. Maybe we should start offering our coaches 5 game rolling contracts.

I'm not calling for Radford to go. Yet.

I can stand us losing but can't stand players not seeming to care or try like against Huddersfield. We were led to believe that when Radford was appointed we would never again see the sort of capitulation we witnessed on Sunday. We were told the players wanted him as coach and would play for him. However Sunday was one of the most despairing performances I have ever seen from a Hull FC team. If he can sort it great. If he can't he should go at the end of the season.

We lost a game in appalling conditions because we missed opportunities to score 20+ points. Disappointing, yes, but despairing???

The only despairing thing was leaving after the hooter had blown to find disorganised chaos getting out of Walton street car park because of the early leavers.