Some fans are clueless. Looking at our squad I think 6th is the best we could have aimed for. I also think we have exceed expectations in the challenege cup. Some want a top four finish straight away and expect us to be the next big thing. Looking at our team, how many of our players would get into a top five team? Not many. If we need to be a top 4 team our recruitment could be better and out current line-up needs improving.

I totally agree. He hasn't made an absolute ar$3 of it and the objective this season was to reach a final, which they have done. As I said before I am happy with small steps and steady improvement.

Lets face it the cup is a lottery and we could draw Wigan away first up next season and that is likely to be that for another year. The league however is different, next year I do not want or expect another 6th finish, must be closer to the top 4. Having said that, does it really make a difference?? Leeds have shown perhaps it doesn't!......

It's all about what ifs. You say we could have won these games but looking at other teams including saints and Leeds, they have been beat by poor teams this season as well and could have turned up. It's all swings and roundabouts. The reason I say we deserve to be 6th is based on comparisons with other teams. Do you really think or team is better than the ones above? And how does my reasonings make me clueless? I just think the majority of fans out there are deluded to the fact we are not yet strong enough the compete at the top end of the ladder.

Typical pessimistic response. "I'm a realist". How can you decide what's "really" happening?


Well you would think everyone else's knowledge is worse because you think the worst of everything.
And you don't swing because you always take the pessimistic view regardless of how good we're doing.


There you go. That wasn't hard. And to think, if you hadn't been pressed we wouldn't have even had this Jakey Knowledge Bomb!


I agree. But it's not as bad as people make out.


As does every team in every sport except a very rare perfect few. That's the beauty of sport, it's not down to what's on a piece of paper or built in the back. Underdogs do win.

We also won some games we shouldn't have by comparison.


We've had major disruptions in the halves. That will happen.


"Pessimism is a state of mind in which one anticipates undesirable outcomes or believes that the evil or hardships in life outweigh the good or luxuries."
Yeah, I'd say that sums you up. There are always more hardships. There's always something more wrong than right.

You don't know me so I don't see how you can comment on my state of mind. You fall into the same trap as the other sheep who don't really read what I post and label me as negative. If you did bother then you'd realise I post what I see and think and back it up with why. If some of that is stuff you'd rather not read about the club then don't bother. I have posted a huge amount of positive things about the club over the years and continue to do so - if you bothered to read what I post then you'd also know that those things I put in the post you commented on are things I've posted on other threads in recent weeks but I'd guess it would be too much to ask for you to look a bi further rather than jumping on the bandwagon.

And I'd back my knowledge of insight into the game against most on here and I guess your "jakey knowledge bomb" quip proves the case with you.

Anyway, I'm glad you take so much notice of what I post. To be honest I can't really say I've ever noticed you other than the mechanic comment from standee the other day which I thought was a bit daft at the time but I now realise where he was coming from.

Anyway, I'll continue to post what I want and if you don't like it try putting me on your ignore list

Technically, is this our best season since 2007? League position, play-off win, cup final?