Quote ="Sheldon"Could, but we have to ">try.'" Agreed, this proven world class coach stuff is getting tedious as it won't happen, we need to find an up and coming coach from Aus with the emphasis being on certain qualities rather then simply experience or past success (would help though) my only concern would be the ability of the decision makers at the club to identify such a person after the Agar farce, and then if we did find the right man would we be an attractive proposition for someone who is possibly in line for an NRL job in a couple of years.

Quote ="Sheldon"Could, but we have to ">try.'" Agreed, this proven world class coach stuff is getting tedious as it won't happen, we need to find an up and coming coach from Aus with the emphasis being on certain qualities rather then simply experience or past success (would help though) my only concern would be the ability of the decision makers at the club to identify such a person after the Agar farce, and then if we did find the right man would we be an attractive proposition for someone who is possibly in line for an NRL job in a couple of years.

I can see many people thinking along the lines of 'here we go again' etcetera.

Quote ="Dave K."I'm shocked anyone can still defend Agar, too many caoching errors, he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, also this year he recruited poorly. My choice would be Daniel Anderson, he is out of work currentley, the best coach by far out of work, did a great job with Saints. After that it has to be ">Noble.'" Has already said he wants another NRL job. Not defending Agar just saying it's not all his fault, players have to take some blame.

Quote ="Dave K."I'm shocked anyone can still defend Agar, too many caoching errors, he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes, also this year he recruited poorly. My choice would be Daniel Anderson, he is out of work currentley, the best coach by far out of work, did a great job with Saints. After that it has to be ">Noble.'" Has already said he wants another NRL job. Not defending Agar just saying it's not all his fault, players have to take some blame.

Quote ="JMSports_Ltd":2y0r28twI feel sorry for him because people dont know the facts behind the scenes and he is taking the flack for everything when a large percentage is down to other people. He's been in the office a few times but I'm not sure he is ready to start doing fitting sessions with netball teams just yet, you have to earn that right!! icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" someone with authority should put the Hull fans straight and maybe the fans might give Richard Agar some 'breathing space'.

Quote ="JMSports_Ltd":2y0r28twI feel sorry for him because people dont know the facts behind the scenes and he is taking the flack for everything when a large percentage is down to other people. He's been in the office a few times but I'm not sure he is ready to start doing fitting sessions with netball teams just yet, you have to earn that right!! icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" />'" someone with authority should put the Hull fans straight and maybe the fans might give Richard Agar some 'breathing space'.

Quote ="JMSports_Ltd":t5l9wv07I have been reading these Agar out style threads for god knows how long now and I am still yet to read a single post which states exactly what it is they think another Coach could do better (other than some waffle about Interchanges). Has anybody posting on here actually attended a training session and had access to session plans and info? Is anyone on here able to give first hand knowledge of what is said by Rich in the dressing room, on the training pitch, in his tip sheets, at video sessions? Does anyone on here actually know how he has asked the players to play? The fact is the guy is battling against so many issues I do not understand what it is you think any other Coach coming in would do differently. For example, last night, less than 24 hours after an embarrassment of a performance, 3 very senior players were smashed out of their skulls with Wille Mason, one of them so bad he fell down the stairs, in the City Centre. Is that right do you think? Professional? Agars fault? Your CEO decided that instead of being at the KC Friday night supporting his team and coach he would go on a weekend break. Is that right do you think? Professional? Agars fault? There are two examples from this weekend alone. People could post daily on here with similar examples of how the staff of the club are taking the pee out of the fans. I can tell you 100% Rich Agar isn't. The guy is busting a gut to try and put things right and get the best out of the players. You could argue he signed these people and that he should be able to control them but be honest, how many would of said no to Tansey when he signed? How many of you would say no when the board bring O'Meely, Fitzgibbon, Luaki, Long etc to you and ask if you want them? I can understand why Agar is getting the blame and I dont think he has helped himself with his press conferences and certain selection choices but he doesn't like talking to the media and the selections were what he wholeheartedly thought would do the best possible job for that game. Terry Matterson very rarely does Sky, he is not a media whore, it does not make you a bad coach. Hopefully Agar will be still in a job for the rest of this season and some of the pi55 takers at the club wont because I feel sorry for you lot who are paying their wages after seeing the state of them last :t5l9wv07">night.'" he should go on the offensive. He will have nothing to loose. By doing so some peoples opinions of him might change and change for the better. It is upto him now.

Quote ="JMSports_Ltd":t5l9wv07I have been reading these Agar out style threads for god knows how long now and I am still yet to read a single post which states exactly what it is they think another Coach could do better (other than some waffle about Interchanges). Has anybody posting on here actually attended a training session and had access to session plans and info? Is anyone on here able to give first hand knowledge of what is said by Rich in the dressing room, on the training pitch, in his tip sheets, at video sessions? Does anyone on here actually know how he has asked the players to play? The fact is the guy is battling against so many issues I do not understand what it is you think any other Coach coming in would do differently. For example, last night, less than 24 hours after an embarrassment of a performance, 3 very senior players were smashed out of their skulls with Wille Mason, one of them so bad he fell down the stairs, in the City Centre. Is that right do you think? Professional? Agars fault? Your CEO decided that instead of being at the KC Friday night supporting his team and coach he would go on a weekend break. Is that right do you think? Professional? Agars fault? There are two examples from this weekend alone. People could post daily on here with similar examples of how the staff of the club are taking the pee out of the fans. I can tell you 100% Rich Agar isn't. The guy is busting a gut to try and put things right and get the best out of the players. You could argue he signed these people and that he should be able to control them but be honest, how many would of said no to Tansey when he signed? How many of you would say no when the board bring O'Meely, Fitzgibbon, Luaki, Long etc to you and ask if you want them? I can understand why Agar is getting the blame and I dont think he has helped himself with his press conferences and certain selection choices but he doesn't like talking to the media and the selections were what he wholeheartedly thought would do the best possible job for that game. Terry Matterson very rarely does Sky, he is not a media whore, it does not make you a bad coach. Hopefully Agar will be still in a job for the rest of this season and some of the pi55 takers at the club wont because I feel sorry for you lot who are paying their wages after seeing the state of them last :t5l9wv07">night.'" he should go on the offensive. He will have nothing to loose. By doing so some peoples opinions of him might change and change for the better. It is upto him now.

If the players are still taking the piiss then it's a culture issue at the club and culture comes from the top down. I don't see kath as someone who will suffer fools so I'm surprised if she lets people get away with it.



As for players out on the piiss on Saturday, I had heard some of them were meeting at Ionians in the afternoon for the start of an "all dayer". Presumably our chief exec saw them so will take the appropriate action if they have breeched club rules