I actually don't think Agar is thick, he seems to have an open mind and is definetely very knowledgeable about certain aspects of the game, that's maybe why he seems genuinely respected by many in the game, which makes it all the more baffling that he continuously gets it so wrong on the field without learning his lessons after three years of failing spectaculously with his tactics, negative approach, failing to sort out our dire kicking game, lack of a second phase and the complete hash he makes of the interchanges.

Quote ="lummy"As for Agar maybe making a fair/valid point - I simply don't buy that theory. I have never heard any coach/manager in RL or football cite a loss is easier to take because that's what our corresponding fixture the previous year yielded. He's spouting embarrassing ">drivel.'" To be fair to Agar, that's not what he meant. His point was that we lost the corresponding fixtures last year but still finished 6th, meaning that it's a long season and losing the same fixtures this year doesn't necessarily mean that our season is down the pan. It's not a view I agree with and I think it was a mistake to bring it up, but it's not quite the lame excuse some have read it as.

Quote ="lummy"As for Agar maybe making a fair/valid point - I simply don't buy that theory. I have never heard any coach/manager in RL or football cite a loss is easier to take because that's what our corresponding fixture the previous year yielded. He's spouting embarrassing ">drivel.'" To be fair to Agar, that's not what he meant. His point was that we lost the corresponding fixtures last year but still finished 6th, meaning that it's a long season and losing the same fixtures this year doesn't necessarily mean that our season is down the pan. It's not a view I agree with and I think it was a mistake to bring it up, but it's not quite the lame excuse some have read it as.

Quote ="Kosh"To be fair to Agar, that's not what he meant. His point was that we lost the corresponding fixtures last year but still finished 6th, meaning that it's a long season and losing the same fixtures this year doesn't necessarily mean that our season is down the pan. It's not a view I agree with and I think it was a mistake to bring it up, but it's not quite the lame excuse some have read it ">as.'" His comments would suggest he will be happy with 6th then and is not looking for an improvement ?

Quote ="Kosh"To be fair to Agar, that's not what he meant. His point was that we lost the corresponding fixtures last year but still finished 6th, meaning that it's a long season and losing the same fixtures this year doesn't necessarily mean that our season is down the pan. It's not a view I agree with and I think it was a mistake to bring it up, but it's not quite the lame excuse some have read it ">as.'" His comments would suggest he will be happy with 6th then and is not looking for an improvement ?

I'd say his comments suggest he's aiming at the playoffs and not a specific position in them at this stage. Hence why I don't agree with his point.

Nor me

Quote ="lummy"I made the point about the Easter fixtures last year and it really stirred up our red and white friends. Their trip to Harlequins was almost a bye - they were a cricket score up at h-time. After the derby game, you don't want a top 2 or 3 club full stop, doesnt matter where it is. I don't believe there's any conspiracy here but we have by far the hardest Easter fixtures again. As for Agar maybe making a fair/valid point - I simply don't buy that theory. I have never heard any coach/manager in RL or football cite a loss is easier to take because that's what our corresponding fixture the previous year yielded. He's spouting embarrassing ">drivel.'" I personally think we've got the worst end of the deal, you've got warrington, we've got the league leaders.. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="lummy"I made the point about the Easter fixtures last year and it really stirred up our red and white friends. Their trip to Harlequins was almost a bye - they were a cricket score up at h-time. After the derby game, you don't want a top 2 or 3 club full stop, doesnt matter where it is. I don't believe there's any conspiracy here but we have by far the hardest Easter fixtures again. As for Agar maybe making a fair/valid point - I simply don't buy that theory. I have never heard any coach/manager in RL or football cite a loss is easier to take because that's what our corresponding fixture the previous year yielded. He's spouting embarrassing ">drivel.'" I personally think we've got the worst end of the deal, you've got warrington, we've got the league leaders.. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />