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| Quote Neil HFC="Neil HFC"Pretty well, Yup. Given any transfer to a different club means the pre 2008 exemption gets wiped.'"
Nope. That part of the rule lasted barely 6 months before the RFL had to withdraw it. The exemption stays with a player for the rest of his career regardless of whether he changes clubs or not.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Nope. That part of the rule lasted barely 6 months before the RFL had to withdraw it. The exemption stays with a player for the rest of his career regardless of whether he changes clubs or not.'"
FFS, my previous comments about ups and brewery's apparently show the RFL in a too good light. 
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Quote colt-45="colt-45"Help explaine the tongan "off the quota" position please!
As in the willie mason situation getting a tongan passport so as to come off the quota as stated in the rugby press and HDM.
My question is why cant MOA and LAUAKI come off the F.C quota if they hold tongan passports?
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www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=7284
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Quote colt-45="colt-45"Help explaine the tongan "off the quota" position please!
As in the willie mason situation getting a tongan passport so as to come off the quota as stated in the rugby press and HDM.
My question is why cant MOA and LAUAKI come off the F.C quota if they hold tongan passports?
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www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=7284
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| Quote wolfie="wolfie"www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=7284'"
Its still laughable !!! 
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| To those that are struggling to work out how Hull KR have gotten round the rules, here's a post I made whilst trying to work it out myself in the end (I think we all agreed that this is how it was done):
Due to the old "quota" system and the new "non-fed" system, their is a transitional period where exemptions will mean you can be one and/or the other.
After this transitional period, probably about 6-7 years, I think the word "quota" will no longer be used as there will no longer be a need to use it. All quota players will also be non-fed players (there will be no exemptions to the non-fed, so you can't be on the quota and not on the non-fed list).
So the lists look like this:
=#FF0000For Hull KR:
[uQuota (those that were classed as an overseas player before 200icon_cool.gif:[/u
Joel Clinton
Michael Dobson
Ben Galea
Blake Green
Jake Webster
[uNon-Federation Trained (those that were classed as to be trained outside of the RFL [or is it RLEF? and signed AFTER 200icon_cool.gif:[/u
Joel Clinton
Michael Dobson
Blake Green
Willie Mason
ONE PLACE AVAILABLE
[uThose that are exempt from the quota (due to having an EU passport or because of the Kolpak ruling[/u):
Ben Fisher - UK passport
Rhys Lovegrove - UK passport
Willie Mason - Tongan passport
Clint Newton - UK passport?
Michael Vella - Maltese passport
[uThose that are exempt from non-federation status (due to having signed for a club in this federation before the 2008 ruling came in):[/u
Ben Fisher - signed for Halifax in 2004
Ben Galea - signed for Hull KR in 2007 (played first game in 200icon_cool.gif
Rhys Lovegrove - signed for Hull KR in 2007
Clint Newton - signed for Hull KR in 2007 (played first game in 200icon_cool.gif
Michael Vella - signed for Hull KR in 2006 (played first game in 2007)
Jake Webster - signed for Hull KR in 2007 (played first game in 200icon_cool.gif
So really, Hull KR could technically sign ANOTHER non-fed player with an EU passport or on the Kolpak ruling! And if they get Ben Galea a Maltese passport, that would make him exempt from the quota AND non-fed status, which means they could sign another fully-fledged Aussie. Or even worse, they could sign a player exempt from the quota but not exempt from non-fed AND a player exempt from non-fed, but not the quota (say convince getting Scott Donald to come out of retirement)! In fact, they just sign a full team full of foreigners that signed for SL clubs before 2008 with Kolpak rulings or EU passports and have a full team of imports!
For Hull FC:
[uQuota (those that were classed as an overseas player before 200icon_cool.gif:[/u
Craig Fitzgibbon
Mark O'Meley
THREE PLACES AVAILABLE
[uNon-Federation Trained (those that were classed as to be trained outside of the RFL [or is it RLEF? and signed AFTER 200icon_cool.gif:[/u
Craig Fitzgibbon
Epalahame Lauaki
Sam Moa
Mark O'Meley
ONE PLACE AVAILABLE
[uThose that are exempt from the quota (due to having an EU passport or because of the Kolpak ruling[/u):
Epalahame Lauaki - Tongan passport
Willie Manu - Tongan passport
Sam Moa - Tongan passport
[uThose that are exempt from non-federation status (due to having signed for a club in this federation before the 2008 ruling came in):[/u
Willie Manu - Signed for Castleford in 2006
So we can only sign one more non-fed trained player, regardless of whether he has an EU/Kolpak passport or not. The only way we can get around it is by looking to sign a player who has already signed for a SL club BEFORE 2008 (and it won't matter what passport he has as we already have plenty of quota spaces left).
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