totally agree..i think theyll both go really well. especially turner.im expecting big things from those two.....

Long could defy the years because the guy is meant to be our on field brain and lead us. Many good players have adapted their game as they've got older and managed to play the game in the proverbial dinner suit. Horne isn't that type of player. He relied on strength and reasonable pace. He's been playing more years than most too and it will be a big surprise to see him regain any form for me. That doesn't help Long either.

I'm not saying they're the best in the world (although I think Long is definitely up there) - what I was saying is that they're not necessarily past their best.

But you did watch the start of the season this year didn't you when Horne played very well. That was less than a year ago. Why would he start the season on great form and then people write him off as if he's past it less than 9 months later? A season free of injuries for Richard (a long shot I know on his recent luck) and I think we'll see a very good player return to our team.

I didn't see it that way but the problem is even if that was considered back to form he/it looked fragile. I hope you're right and he has a good season, just can't see it.

Well, my fingers are crossed for him.