Quote ="Trawlerman"Sorry it’s a bit long but I don’t think we are responding as a club to the injuries we seem to have had for three years. IMO injuries can be due to five main reasons. 1 Luck – there is no doubt that luck plays a part in injuries but to have similar issues for three years in a row would suggest that there is more to it that just bad luck. 2 Age – whilst I don’t have any statistics to prove this I believe it is fairly widely agreed that as a sportsman passes the age of 30 injuries do seem to be more common and the recovery period longer. 3 Technique – In a contact sport such as Rugby League the way you go into contact has to have some effect on the hits to the body. For example if you are upright with an open chest you will eventually take a hit to the rib cage that causes injury. 4. Preparation and warm up – Warm up and stretching before a game is vital as is maintaining that flexibility created in the warm up whilst on the bench waiting to be called upon. Take Louaki (sp) for example, warms up before the Quins game then has 5/10minutes in the changing rooms followed by 10 minutes sat on the bench. Enters the game and within seconds has pulled a muscle in his calf. 5. Tactics – If you play rugby league in ones as FC tend to do you are going to take more hits from defenders. For example one man takes the ball up and is talked by a three defenders with often a fourth coming in to finish the job. Alternatively you have an attacker in support and at least one of those defenders must stay out of the tackle to mark the supporting attacker. Result ball carrier takes less hits and only has to wrestle with 2/3 defenders on the floor. These observations are from a guy who watches from the stands with no medical history but if I was paying £1.8m in salary to players I would want to know why for three years in a row half my payroll costs are not performing for me. I would find an independent consultant in this field to carry out some research because to say its bad luck for the third year is unacceptable. There has to be another reason be it signing old injury prone players, fitness, preparation or coaching there has to be a reason beyond just bad luck. Anybody have any other theories or Does">ideas.'" Does the pitch at the KC contribute?? Ive been on it and was surprised how hard it was. It was like walking on concrete

Quote ="Trawlerman"Sorry it’s a bit long but I don’t think we are responding as a club to the injuries we seem to have had for three years. IMO injuries can be due to five main reasons. 1 Luck – there is no doubt that luck plays a part in injuries but to have similar issues for three years in a row would suggest that there is more to it that just bad luck. 2 Age – whilst I don’t have any statistics to prove this I believe it is fairly widely agreed that as a sportsman passes the age of 30 injuries do seem to be more common and the recovery period longer. 3 Technique – In a contact sport such as Rugby League the way you go into contact has to have some effect on the hits to the body. For example if you are upright with an open chest you will eventually take a hit to the rib cage that causes injury. 4. Preparation and warm up – Warm up and stretching before a game is vital as is maintaining that flexibility created in the warm up whilst on the bench waiting to be called upon. Take Louaki (sp) for example, warms up before the Quins game then has 5/10minutes in the changing rooms followed by 10 minutes sat on the bench. Enters the game and within seconds has pulled a muscle in his calf. 5. Tactics – If you play rugby league in ones as FC tend to do you are going to take more hits from defenders. For example one man takes the ball up and is talked by a three defenders with often a fourth coming in to finish the job. Alternatively you have an attacker in support and at least one of those defenders must stay out of the tackle to mark the supporting attacker. Result ball carrier takes less hits and only has to wrestle with 2/3 defenders on the floor. These observations are from a guy who watches from the stands with no medical history but if I was paying £1.8m in salary to players I would want to know why for three years in a row half my payroll costs are not performing for me. I would find an independent consultant in this field to carry out some research because to say its bad luck for the third year is unacceptable. There has to be another reason be it signing old injury prone players, fitness, preparation or coaching there has to be a reason beyond just bad luck. Anybody have any other theories or Does">ideas.'" Does the pitch at the KC contribute?? Ive been on it and was surprised how hard it was. It was like walking on concrete

You said we have no choice but to play unfit players with injections because otherwise people will get on Agar's back. I think it's taking unnecessary risks with players' long term health for the sake of people on here giving Agar a bit more stick.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"You said we have no choice but to play unfit players with injections because otherwise people will get on Agar's back. I think it's taking unnecessary risks with players' long term health for the sake of people on here giving Agar a bit more ">stick.'" No its called fielding a competetive team If a player thought he could not do it he would not , THATS why the soldiers pull on the jersey every week... you know the ones everyone want rid of like Radford and Dowes Like I sad before it seems that many on here believe we should be buying a team of Offiah, Hanley , Harrison hybrids from somewhere that can run in 80 points per match between them .. cookooland

Quote ="Mrs Barista"You said we have no choice but to play unfit players with injections because otherwise people will get on Agar's back. I think it's taking unnecessary risks with players' long term health for the sake of people on here giving Agar a bit more ">stick.'" No its called fielding a competetive team If a player thought he could not do it he would not , THATS why the soldiers pull on the jersey every week... you know the ones everyone want rid of like Radford and Dowes Like I sad before it seems that many on here believe we should be buying a team of Offiah, Hanley , Harrison hybrids from somewhere that can run in 80 points per match between them .. cookooland

Saints and Wire are doing that

You continually seem to avoid answering questions that don't suit your views. For example mine earlier about why after so many years of Agar and Last and Crookes our young "stars" are not ready to play. Not the crop from this year but last years and the years before that.

And Manu is out for 4 weeks with damaged elbow ligaments according to Agar. Nothing wrong with him??????????????????????

maybe time they all went?if we want to be succesful,we have to be 'ruthless',and if that means axing these guys,then so be it.