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I've not got time to read the full thread, so I apologise if this has already been covered.
I am by no means a BNP sympathiser, AT ALL, but I feel the BBC couldn't have handled last night any worse than they did!!
A fair "debate" (which everyone is entitled to in the UK) is NOT given when you have the following:
1) One guy on his own surrounded by 5 panellists that blatantly don't like Griffin (personal opinions should stay at the door), its Question Time we want someone to sort out the "sh*t state of affairs" the country is in, not to argue about the guy in a (borderline) personal manner!
2) The the audience had just one or two BNP sympathisers (I'm not saying they have loads), but they again weren't at the front, or dotted around everywhere in the audience, they were all at the back. He may not have allot of support, but it seemed strange that they all got put out of view?
When you look at it, Griffin's only real election styled pledge to anyone in the UK is based on immigration, if he had more realistic views surely we'd have heard them by now and at the very least people would have discussed them in public arena and far more than they have currently?
Last nights one sided debate basically made a martyr of Griffin to his current supporters and possibly strengthened the resolve of previous hanging voters to join the cause. I feel last night did more damage, in convincing [isome[/i people to join him and his obnoxious campaign.
What should have happened is a fair debate with stringent "one at a time" questions for both arguments, who is right and who is wrong is no issue in this discussion as, as we live in a free speech society and debate is the life blood of a democracy FFS. If Abu Hamza gets free speech, then so does Griffin (unfortunately true, but he's allowed his say, even if it does make him look like a numpty).
They should have avoided the obvious race argument or got it over and done with and then pushed him on real issues, such as the post office dispute, the NHS, schools, our armed forces being places they shouldn't be; not just something to get his usual reply of "my granddad was in WWII argument", to that statement someone should have said "Mr Griffin, if I remember correctly, it was called World War 2, not UK War 2, everyone was there and not just your flaming granddad or just the UK."
He's already using last nights staged witch hunt as an "oh, woe is me" campaign!!
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm
Well done BBC, you thought that through well didn't you?!
(Just my opinion)
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I've not got time to read the full thread, so I apologise if this has already been covered.
I am by no means a BNP sympathiser, AT ALL, but I feel the BBC couldn't have handled last night any worse than they did!!
A fair "debate" (which everyone is entitled to in the UK) is NOT given when you have the following:
1) One guy on his own surrounded by 5 panellists that blatantly don't like Griffin (personal opinions should stay at the door), its Question Time we want someone to sort out the "sh*t state of affairs" the country is in, not to argue about the guy in a (borderline) personal manner!
2) The the audience had just one or two BNP sympathisers (I'm not saying they have loads), but they again weren't at the front, or dotted around everywhere in the audience, they were all at the back. He may not have allot of support, but it seemed strange that they all got put out of view?
When you look at it, Griffin's only real election styled pledge to anyone in the UK is based on immigration, if he had more realistic views surely we'd have heard them by now and at the very least people would have discussed them in public arena and far more than they have currently?
Last nights one sided debate basically made a martyr of Griffin to his current supporters and possibly strengthened the resolve of previous hanging voters to join the cause. I feel last night did more damage, in convincing [isome[/i people to join him and his obnoxious campaign.
What should have happened is a fair debate with stringent "one at a time" questions for both arguments, who is right and who is wrong is no issue in this discussion as, as we live in a free speech society and debate is the life blood of a democracy FFS. If Abu Hamza gets free speech, then so does Griffin (unfortunately true, but he's allowed his say, even if it does make him look like a numpty).
They should have avoided the obvious race argument or got it over and done with and then pushed him on real issues, such as the post office dispute, the NHS, schools, our armed forces being places they shouldn't be; not just something to get his usual reply of "my granddad was in WWII argument", to that statement someone should have said "Mr Griffin, if I remember correctly, it was called World War 2, not UK War 2, everyone was there and not just your flaming granddad or just the UK."
He's already using last nights staged witch hunt as an "oh, woe is me" campaign!!
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322322.stm
Well done BBC, you thought that through well didn't you?!
(Just my opinion)
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| Quote El Chupacabra="El Chupacabra"what a shock, when cokhead starts resorting to abuse you know you're winning the argument.'"
Abuse?
He'd probably be wearing it as a badge of honour, were it not for the fact that it's half-term
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"=redIrony not your strong suit?
Enough abuse, people. I realise this is a topic that stirs strong emotions but keep a lid on the personal stuff or it can go.'" My question would be, why has it lasted this long?
It's obvious that nobody is willing to back down and it hasn't been much of a debate since about page 12.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"My question would be, why has it lasted this long?
It's obvious that nobody is willing to back down and it hasn't been much of a debate since about page 12.'"
If you mean that your (and that of others) argument has been dissected and dis-assembled, then I can see your point, it is time for you to give up. But please don't prevent us adults from having some intellectual debate
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"If you mean that your (and that of others) argument has been dissected and dis-assembled, then I can see your point, it is time for you to give up. But please don't prevent us adults from having some intellectual debate'" Take your head out the sand and get a grip.
You're a fool, others on this thread share the same view as you but are not so moronic with their argument.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Take your head out the sand and get a grip.
You're a fool, others on this thread share the same view as you but are not so moronic with their argument.'"
He and his comrades are obviously part of the socialist audience participation unit, spreading the gospel far and wide 
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