Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"Regarding the West Terrace, obviously we're not going to get anywhere near what we have on the East. But in reality all we need is decent terracing at pitch level and a roof. How feasible would it be to have something similar to the South Stand at Dewsbury? https://images.app.goo.gl/SWdxp19AraUGk1cG9 I don't mean exactly the same, something hopefully a bit better with no restricted views, quite basic but better than what we have?'" Agreed. Even something like one of those what Vasty mentioned a couple of years ago, and I think he pul the link up on here. They did a lot of stands for lower and non league football. Weren't they called Stadium Solutions or something. As for approval, there was a stand there before that stood for how how many years.

Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"Regarding the West Terrace, obviously we're not going to get anywhere near what we have on the East. But in reality all we need is decent terracing at pitch level and a roof. How feasible would it be to have something similar to the South Stand at Dewsbury? https://images.app.goo.gl/SWdxp19AraUGk1cG9 I don't mean exactly the same, something hopefully a bit better with no restricted views, quite basic but better than what we have?'" Agreed. Even something like one of those what Vasty mentioned a couple of years ago, and I think he pul the link up on here. They did a lot of stands for lower and non league football. Weren't they called Stadium Solutions or something. As for approval, there was a stand there before that stood for how how many years.

A tent on the pitch to watch the stand grow would be enough…. But have you seen the cost of flights these days????!

Start walikng....

Youll be here in time for it opening......

We don’t need to pursued the residents behind. So long as the new stand was no higher than the old West stand there is a precedent set.



Also I know that the club put in planning in 2000 for a West stand replacement and that was passed provisionally.



However the simplest way around it is to build a terrace up to the height of the existing wall. Then put in a temporary roof requiring no planning permission. If you want to know roughly what that will look like see then existing west terrace roof, as that is a temp structure. It will look like that but will be exactly 8 feet taller, and yes that’s an exact figure.





But to answer everyone’s point, it’s still way more money than we have.



Actually no it’s not, we could afford to do it next close season but you can forget about keeping Murphy or signing top players.



It’s a very simple equation. The new East stand will give us full facilities at last. The ground will hold roughly 8000. At present we don’t get close to that in attendances. We won’t get close to that no matter how great the west terrace is without a good team playing good rugby.



So spend on players or carry on upgrading the stadium. Sadly we can’t do both on the short term. So I’m for players from now on, and that’s hard for me as I’m a stadium fanatic and would love nothing more.



One point of note. The west terrace is only an issue if it’s full, which it rarely is. It’s only the bottom few steps that offer unacceptable viewing. The terracing itself is in decent shape, unlike the North terrace there is no safety issue. It’s simply not a pressing issue until we really start to test the capacity more often.



Plans are in place, both simple and more elaborate but they are on hold unless we snag another 500k to upwards of 2 million depending on the plan used.



Hope that helps.

Let's be fair - anything done to the West terrace will improve it!

It was an absolute eyesore last season and will look even worse when the new stand takes shape.

I wander what the cost would be? (just in case I win the lottery!)

I’ve just told you





To bring the terrace up to pitch height and make the terracing steeper with higher steps, about 500k, or a four year deal for Murphy





To build a stand about 2-2.5 million. When I get the chance I’ll post you a pic. I actually know that the builder of this stand have done a feasibility study on the west terrace, bear with me.

What’s the cost of knocking down the current pile of ad hock buildings that are currently there, they look bloody awful.

The stadium would instantly look better if they were demolished and removed.

As I understand it SKY won’t use them anymore and I don’t blame them and there must surely be a fairly simple solution to hosting a camera over there. There are hundreds of outdoor sports broadcasts where they erect a camera tower

No point knocking something down to re build a similar structure. Best thing is to cover it with something similar to what Vasty has suggested to cover the void in the north stand.

I think we all agree the west terrace is in serious need of a revamp. We must also accept that the funding for this is not available. However the cost of making it tidy and either pulling down or tarting up those boxes would not be that much I believe.

I have said this before. Our ground will resemble a nice new built house with a few scrap cars and an old caravan in the front garden, if its left in its present state.

Honestly PB I know what you're saying, but let's put it this way.



Nothing these days appears to be cheap, so I guess that to demolish and remove those old boxes and assorted crap would cost say 20k and honestly I really don't think I'm being OTT. We may be able to pull in some favours and get it for less. That 20k could be the difference between keeping say Shaw? I reckon we are as financially stretched with all the new stuff as we possibly can be without actually being overdrawn. So sadly even 20k is too much. I just think we are going to have to live with a ground in flux, until the new revenue streams comes on line and free up extra cash. Maybe the limited share issue JM seemed to be intimating may be a way to raise the cash to add some finishing touces, but as you and me know well, the response from the Wakefield public has not been great in the past.

It was an odd one this, I've actually posted about this one before, some time back. When I visited JM he was trying to explain the various options and one involved a system used by a football team that looked promising but he couldn't remember the name of the club. I then asked if he meant Maidstone and immediately he said yes.



I'm not talking out of turn as this was a fact finding mission.



What I don't want is anyone to think this is whats happening in any way. All I know is that the people who make the system have looked at BV and I assume it was feasible. No mention of quotes or anything as concrete as that.



The beauty of the system is cost and simplicity, it's as close to a flat pack stand as you can get, and one that actually fits in the limited space. It's relatively cheap. Much of the fittings are above ground meaning minimal foundations. It's basic, though nowhere near as basic as what's there now, but would do the job. It's tried and tested, I think a few have been done this way now.



My guess, in todays money, about 1.5 - 2 million to take it two thirds length as the current terracing roughly sits.

What's happened to the Wakefield fc option grants etc?. The yc deal still stinks leaving Trinity with one stand!! It could be 10 years and more till the stadium fully complete or never!!!

I think Wakefield FC play at Fev. Would be worth seeing if we could bring them back for 2024 and look if there’s access to grants to get the west side upgraded.



That what Vastman has posted would be idea for us on the West. Basic but smart enough. Would only leave the south and bottom part of north.

Regarding the share issue…

Is this something the club intends announcing in the future?

Just after the Salford away game last season I emailed the club regarding this subject.. I received a prompt reply which stated it was something they were looking into on the back of the new stand going up.while I’ve no idea about interest or how much could be raised I think it’s a good way to raise funds especially with the club heading in the right direction.

Apparently it was mentioned at the fans forum but I wasn’t there so don’t know the details. I’m waiting for it to be on Trinity TV

Thanks for that - I'd settle for something like that!

Could it not go all the way Vasty?

All it needs to be. I'd like extra height for the TV camara but then the cost goes up.



Just been looking back on the original deal, seems the estimated build cost for Newmarket were circa £8-13m, well for £1m less then the top of that range we get a stand and some upgrades in other areas of the ground rather than a complete new stadium. That's just shows what's happened with build costs over the past decade or so. So while we all feel short changed, the value of what we are getting isn't too far off, and most expected nothing from the charlatan so credit must go to Minards/Carter for getting the deal they did. Time has screwed us more than anything else



I know that wont wash with those who are too bloody minded to accept reality.

That would be perfect.

Must say

I feel bad the west stand even has to come up, it just looks so utterly terrible though



That mc and Jm have made the east stand happen is utterly incredible



I think it would help if the porta cabins were removed and it was just an open terrace if nothing can be done



We are one of the few clubs that actually owns its own ground and we are getting a new stand it’s amazing truely

I guess if the terracing is sorted this could be an option; https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/ourwork/barrow-afc/

I guess if the terracing is sorted this could be an option; https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/ourwork/barrow-afc/

That is the standing terrace, they have a seated equivalent down the side and that has a gantry so it not an issue. Its east tall enough.

It is a shame but the money simply isn’t there for now.



Its very easy to get Stadium fever, I do. But at the end of the day the rugby comes first. We’ve made a start, a big start, but we need to turn our efforts back to the team.



I’ll happily accept a scruffy west terrace, if nothing else it pees off arrogant Saints fans.

I think one has to consider the work that has been done in the past few years (which included a business destroying pandemic and an economic meltdown) to take ownership of the ground and land and then manage the investment of a huge new stand… upgraded north bank … a new pitch.. new visual system … new floodlighting…



On top of that we have a high performing scholarship and academy set up … a young reserve grade team that made the grand final





If that is a glass that’s half empty … god knows what a half full glass looks like!!

Spot on. I simply can’t believe the progress we’ve made in the last few years. True it’s yet to show on the pitch but off the field it’s immense.



We are fundamentally a different club to what we were five years ago. We now have a pathway to a future instead of being a club waiting for its luck to run out. We’re not there yet but the evidence of a resurgence is visible.



I know a lot of people find MC abrasive and I get it. Sorry if your reading MC, it’s not my opinion but I can’t deny it is the opinion of a lot of people I talk to, and I try not to talk to idiots. However the man had a goal and that was to turn Trinity into a viable entity with a future and imo he has.



I salute that, I admire single minded people. Not all the time and not all of them but I do in this case. I like to think that if I ran the club I’d do the same, but I doubt I would, I’d get carried away. We survived Covid and we still are and I’m not sure any of our previous leaders would have managed that.



JM has bought a lighter touch but the principles are the same.



I can’t read the future, but what I do know is that now we might have one and only five years ago we didn’t.