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| It’s a form of protest against the current management of the club. Signs like the Donny road one were always going to appear the longer the losing run goes on.
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| Hard to see how you can protest the total crap that’s been served up this season. If you don’t go or withhold your money then it’s not helping the team . Allegedly the board don’t read social media so I personally sympathise the poster sentiments.
I don’t blame Applegarth for our woes but his inexperience sure isn’t helping matters.
Unfortunately the only way to change the performances is to sack him
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| This is a tough one for me. On the one hand something has to change and i dont think that MA has got the answers to change it. Unfortunately he is left shuffling a bad hand.
The off season signings have been dreadful, and the injury list in the backs again is horrendous.
I dont see a new coach changing things quickly enough to make a difference.
Luckily agent Miller is doing great work at Castleford, otherwise we would be relegated already.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"It wasn’t working with Poching either. Other than a late season save it didn’t go very well at all. Obviously they have tried backing another coach but it hasn’t worked out and is looking like it might end up worse.
Poching is history. It’s not a Poching vs Apelgarth thing. It’s whether Apelgarth is ready. As it stands he’s not looking like he’s ready for a head coaches job. He needs to do more time as assistant and that’s no shame. He backed himself but we don’t always get things right.
I suspect we will have a new HC come in and Apelgarth revert to Youth/Assistsnt. Possibly in the off season.'"
Too late by then
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"It wasn’t working with Poching either. Other than a late season save it didn’t go very well at all. Obviously they have tried backing another coach but it hasn’t worked out and is looking like it might end up worse.
Poching is history. It’s not a Poching vs Apelgarth thing. It’s whether Apelgarth is ready. As it stands he’s not looking like he’s ready for a head coaches job. He needs to do more time as assistant and that’s no shame. He backed himself but we don’t always get things right.
I suspect we will have a new HC come in and Apelgarth revert to Youth/Assistsnt. Possibly in the off season.'"
"It didn't work with Poching either".
A 50% (ish) win ratio suggests otherwise to me.
"As it stands its looking like Applegarth isn't ready"
A 0% win ratio suggests to its not looking like it. It's absolutely nailed on.
Poching comes into the equation because we sacked him. Then replaced him with Applegarth. Who 1 man and his dog knew wasn't ready. I still to this day cannot comprehend the thought process beind this.
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| The indisputable fact is we have played 13 and lost 13. We are averaging 6 points per game which shows no sign of improving and unfortunately 29 points against. He can blame Ford for the failure in attack but unfortunately by the process of elimination he must be held at fault for our defensive frailties.
I would expect to see some progress but no we just do the same each week whichever team we pick. He said the return of Tanginoa would be the catalyst and now Jowitt but no nothing changes. We say Castleford are within reach which they are but does anyone actually believe we have three wins in us. It pains me to say that the incumbents and their quickly appointed coach have turned our great club into an on field joke. We are apparently not the worst team in SL history yet but the way it is going this is one record he could reach. What a legacy to finally relegate our great club on its 150 year anniversary coupled with 25 unbroken years in SL.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The indisputable fact is we have played 13 and lost 13. We are averaging 6 points per game which shows no sign of improving and unfortunately 29 points against. He can blame Ford for the failure in attack but unfortunately by the process of elimination he must be held at fault for our defensive frailties.
I would expect to see some progress but no we just do the same each week whichever team we pick. He said the return of Tanginoa would be the catalyst and now Jowitt but no nothing changes. We say Castleford are within reach which they are but does anyone actually believe we have three wins in us. It pains me to say that the incumbents and their quickly appointed coach have turned our great club into an on field joke. We are apparently not the worst team in SL history yet but the way it is going this is one record he could reach. What a legacy to finally relegate our great club on its 150 year anniversary coupled with 25 unbroken years in SL.'"
To be honest it’s hard to disagree with any of that.
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| Quote marc271841="marc271841""It didn't work with Poching either".
A 50% (ish) win ratio suggests otherwise to me.
"As it stands its looking like Applegarth isn't ready"
A 0% win ratio suggests to its not looking like it. It's absolutely nailed on.
Poching comes into the equation because we sacked him. Then replaced him with Applegarth. Who 1 man and his dog knew wasn't ready. I still to this day cannot comprehend the thought process beind this.'"
He got the push at the end of the season because the players were not happy…
I recall the senior players in our squad taking it upon themselves to more or less take things into their own hands to get the results…
Not quite sure how this came about . But something wasn’t right..
I remember tanganoa mentioning something about the training and how things had changed…at a pre season friendly interview he did
Now quite obviously things haven’t worked out….
This is just my opinion…. But I think MA is still in the head coach role until the new man takes over. I see little point in either appointing a head coach or an assistant for that matter until the take over stuff is sorted out…
He’s very likely to be replaced…but I’d like to think that he did a good job with the juniors …
The new man wants complete control.. so he will get to decide who’s doing what … it will be his to do with whatever he pleases.. where as mine is only an opinion!
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The indisputable fact is we have played 13 and lost 13. We are averaging 6 points per game which shows no sign of improving and unfortunately 29 points against. He can blame Ford for the failure in attack but unfortunately by the process of elimination he must be held at fault for our defensive frailties.
I would expect to see some progress but no we just do the same each week whichever team we pick. He said the return of Tanginoa would be the catalyst and now Jowitt but no nothing changes. We say Castleford are within reach which they are but does anyone actually believe we have three wins in us. It pains me to say that the incumbents and their quickly appointed coach have turned our great club into an on field joke. We are apparently not the worst team in SL history yet but the way it is going this is one record he could reach. What a legacy to finally relegate our great club on its 150 year anniversary coupled with 25 unbroken years in SL.'"
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| Quote Pat Bateman="Pat Bateman"Cracking post.'"
It’s hard to argue with what he’s said
But do you really think replacing him at this moment in time would be beneficial?
What if the takeover goes ahead and the new owner doesn’t want our newly appointed coach?
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| Quote Belle Vue="Belle Vue"It’s hard to argue with what he’s said
But do you really think replacing him at this moment in time would be beneficial?
What if the takeover goes ahead and the new owner doesn’t want our newly appointed coach?'"
I'm the same. The facts are indisputable.
The solution is not so easy.
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| Quote Belle Vue="Belle Vue"It’s hard to argue with what he’s said
But do you really think replacing him at this moment in time would be beneficial?
What if the takeover goes ahead and the new owner doesn’t want our newly appointed coach?'"
If Applegarth was going to be replaced then I think he would of been already. I genuinely think the club will sort out the takeover etc first before doing anything with the coaching staff.
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| Quote Belle Vue="Belle Vue"He got the push at the end of the season because the players were not happy…
I recall the senior players in our squad taking it upon themselves to more or less take things into their own hands to get the results…
Not quite sure how this came about . But something wasn’t right..
I remember tanganoa mentioning something about the training and how things had changed…at a pre season friendly interview he did
Now quite obviously things haven’t worked out….
This is just my opinion…. But I think MA is still in the head coach role until the new man takes over. I see little point in either appointing a head coach or an assistant for that matter until the take over stuff is sorted out…
He’s very likely to be replaced…but I’d like to think that he did a good job with the juniors …
The new man wants complete control.. so he will get to decide who’s doing what … it will be his to do with whatever he pleases.. where as mine is only an opinion!'"
Ah those players who have now won 0 from 13!
Could it be that Poching actually pushed them and demanded professionalism from them and they didn't like it. Cos let's be honest whatever training they are getting this year must be atrocious!
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| Quote marc271841="marc271841"Ah those players who have now won 0 from 13!
Could it be that Poching actually pushed them and demanded professionalism from them and they didn't like it. Cos let's be honest whatever training they are getting this year must be atrocious!'"
All those players
Probably the two most influential players from our pack retired in Fifita and Arona
We lost our captain and half back in Miller. These players had all been with us a good few years..
Add to that our best strike player was injured and didn’t play after the Salford game..
James Batchalor decided he wanted a new challenge.
We lost Murphy in game two of this season…
All the above were a big influence at the back end of the season and helped get us over the line..
Now …. I’m not disputing that our recruitment has been poor, the board took a chance on MA being head coach… it hasn’t worked out…
But there are posters on here calling for him to be sacked when given there’s a good chance that we’re going to be bought out, I see little point in getting rid while negotiations continue! (The sooner they are resolved the better)
Wether the new bloke wants to keep MA on the pay role in whatever job title is up to him…
My point was that he did an excellent job in bringing the young lads on and was instrumental in getting us an elite academy licence ( no mean feat considering our lack of funds)
The new man might want to consider this …
It’s up to him..
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| I feel the new regime will see the coaching set up as an initial priority. Normally if a coach is changed the assistant stands in for the interim period whilst a new coach is found. However we got rid of our assistant and competent new coach's are not readily available, the recruitment process takes time. So if we sacked Applegarth this week who would do the job ?
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"I feel the new regime will see the coaching set up as an initial priority. Normally if a coach is changed the assistant stands in for the interim period whilst a new coach is found. However we got rid of our assistant and competent new coach's are not readily available, the recruitment process takes time. So if we sacked Applegarth this week who would do the job ?'"
I thought James Ford left of his own accord?
With the new regime (sounds a bit ominous)wanting full control, he’s hopefully getting some help in the areas of recruitment, playing roster etc.. and hopefully will have set the ball rolling behind the scenes..
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"I feel the new regime will see the coaching set up as an initial priority. Normally if a coach is changed the assistant stands in for the interim period whilst a new coach is found. However we got rid of our assistant and competent new coach's are not readily available, the recruitment process takes time. So if we sacked Applegarth this week who would do the job ?'"
At this point, a tesco carrier bag fluttering on the wind acting as coach would achieve a similar, if not better, win rate to Applegarth.
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| Quote Belle Vue="Belle Vue"I thought James Ford left of his own accord?.'"
That's not I understood it. The club came aware he had agreed a new contract at Fev next season and decided it was in our best interest that he should leave immediately. If Fordy had wanted to see the season out with us ,I am sure we would have not allowed it. Anyhow he's gone and I am hoping our present board are also going very very soon so the new 'Owner' can repair the whole rugby side of the the club.
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"I feel the new regime will see the coaching set up as an initial priority. Normally if a coach is changed the assistant stands in for the interim period whilst a new coach is found. However we got rid of our assistant and competent new coach's are not readily available, the recruitment process takes time. So if we sacked Applegarth this week who would do the job ?'"
Isn't MC looking for a new job shortly ??? 
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"I feel the new regime will see the coaching set up as an initial priority. Normally if a coach is changed the assistant stands in for the interim period whilst a new coach is found. However we got rid of our assistant and competent new coach's are not readily available, the recruitment process takes time. So if we sacked Applegarth this week who would do the job ?'"
Luke gale, surely that’s why you’d sign someone and still not play him a month later 
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| ok so senior players did for poching,all i can say is good on ya willy there a disgrace if so. Next season we have MA as coach got told recently by someone inside that they tell conditioner to jog on now.At first i thought no, then 13 games in proctor on his knees after 15mins atoni worse.Injuries when not even in games,then i remember didn't players go crying to mc about brian smith,who goes to work to tell their bosses what to do? explains walking round puggys now. Lost players,lost respect,lost fans 
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| Quote LG83="LG83"Luke gale, surely that’s why you’d sign someone and still not play him a month later
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.......and the consensus is that you need an experienced coach. Please elaborate.
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| He is just so lethargic in his ways … he puts me to sleep just listening to him ! No umph ! no passion ….
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| Quote Egg Banjo="Egg Banjo"At this point, a tesco carrier bag fluttering on the wind acting as coach would achieve a similar, if not better, win rate to Applegarth.'"
If Wayne Bennett was carrying the bag he'd get the same result with this lot of players you can't educate pork
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