Gone to fev apparently on season long loan next year, along with Kyle Trout.

Looks like we've seen the last of him at Wakey which is disappointing. Especially when over the hill loan players are in the team. Definitely deserved more 1st team opportunities especially now we're safe for next season.

I'd be disappointed if this was the case.

Sadly its becoming the norm at this club for its juniors to be shipped out. Club 1873? What's the point? Now all the club need to announce is Gilmour on a 1 year contract!

I don't expect to see him in a Trin shirt again, not with super dooper Washbrook staying.

One way of having two more 'home grown' players in our squad I suppose.

Don't really see the two competing for the same spot but I think Washbrook is worth his place in the team in front of Annakin.

Disappointed if true about Annakin as thought he had real potential as a back row/loose forward if given a chance in these positions. I was hoping that may happen for these last few games of the season but Webster sees more than we do of the players and I trust his judgement. He wants size and power in the middle of the park next season...



I'd have thought Lucas Walshaw definitely ticks those boxes and has the frame to put another stone on in muscle to be even more impactive next season.

Not sure how the system works (it will probably change anyway), but if they are on a season long loan, can they be recalled at any time? If so then I can see the advantage of doing this as they will, in theory, be getting much more game time at Featherstone than if they stayed full time with us. In short, I can see the advantages and it doesn't necessarily mean the end of their tenure at BV.

Think if it's a season long loan, we won't we able to recall but IDK

If this turns out to be true then to say i'd be very disappointed would be an understatement. Annakin in particular looks to have plenty of potential.

The last time we sent a player on long term loan was Mariano and didnt we have to pay a fee to Fev to get him back?

Would like to think that if we do have to recall either, no fee will be involved and we only have to give Fev decent notice.

But i thought we had a dual reg agreement with Fev?

I've always liked this kid and surprised he hasn't been picked for more games. The 5 game ban certainly didn't help his cause but I had hoped he would get a run out or two before the end of the season. Was hoping he'd nail down the loose forward role after doing so well breaking into the first team, alas it's just not worked out for the lad.

If this is true which I don't know we are looking pretty decimated at this time. If we look at the situation as it stands we have confirmed the departures of



Mathers, Moore, Sykes and Wildie



Loan Players

Reilly, Keinhorst, Owen, Gilmore and Smith



Retired

Raleigh



On Loan?

Annakin & Troute



Out of Contract

Ali, Walshaw and Molloy



On the plus side we have signed three players but it still leaves us with another off season of change. I hope they have a few signings to announce or we are going to look pretty weak next season which will not help season ticket sales.

Webster said he was planning on running with a squad of 25 or 26 with a couple of 17 year olds in.

I'm guessing there are still plenty to come in.

A meaningful loan spell will probably sort out once and for all if Anakin has what it takes to make it in SL; I remain open-minded, because what I've seen of him hasn't been definitive - he appears willing, but hasn't made much of an impact on the games in which he's featured.



As for the last loan deal to Fev - I wouldn't worry about this one going the same way; Mariano was handled in a uniquely awful way by our previous CEO, unbeknown to the coach or the player, leaving him with little choice but to sign for Cas.

The coach has decided that they do not yet meet the standard required re: Superleague.

The fact that they are home produced should not in any way colour judgement when assessing ability and potential.

If some people had had their way we would now be facing relegation after playing not yet up to standard home produced.

Remember these two are not being totally 'axed'.

It is now up to them to prove they have the ability and desire.

If they do both they will be back.

What would be the point of them stagnating ,getting little game time, as ridiculously, clubs do not run 2nd teams.

That is the real problem!

I couldn't agree more - even though it would be a detriment to us, I think it was a mistake to let clubs decide not to run a 2nd team; it was a money saving exercise that will have a much greater cost in terms of player development. Not to mention that it leads to the ridiculous spectacle of Hunslet and Workington fielding international players on loan from SL clubs for rehab purposes, so it also buggers up the lower grade comp and blocks pathways for their own youngsters.



Potty decision in my view.

Well that’s the last of the invincibles  gone , non are left from the year after , non from Ben Shulvers year , and only Tom Johnstone from this years ( not including the 17s) so what is the point of the academy , we obviously haven’t got the infrastructure to develop the talented youth players we recruit at 16. might as well use the  resources the scheme brings in to sign a quality first teamer ,

Indeed, there will always be an excuse as to why the club's juniors don't get a run of games. They will never improve if they dont get sufficient game time. Frankly, the fact Lee Gilmour is still in the squad over the likes of Annakin, Walshaw and Trout is a poor show. There is nothing to play for, no immediate danger facing the club. Sadlty the likes of Crowther and Jowitt will suffer the same fate in three to four years.

I'm less pessimistic - there have been changes at the youth level that won't start to filter through until the current crop of academy players are ready to start playing 1st team; I said at the time that we'd have to draw a line under what had happened before and hope that this new intake were properly handled, and I remain confident that they will be. We'll still suffer at the hands of predators (that's already happening to some of them) but I'm convinced that we'll see more of a measured introduction of youth products over the coming seasons.



If not, feel free to repost this and I'll join you in the glass half empty brigade.

I hope you're right bren2k, but what you've posted has been said time and time again and ultimately when it comes to the crunch, the are overlooked either for imports or old steady pros coming to the end of their career, the exception being when the club literally had no choice but to play a few kids. If Ellis or Westwood had broke through in the last few years I doubt they would've reached the heights they have. They may have found themselves playing for Dewsbury or Featherstone rather than for England.

Not much of an incentive for any young player to join the club in the first place.

Yep it does come over as 'same old, same old' and 'heard it all before' i'm afraid. I know results and league tables aren't everything at that age but this years 19's are bottom of the league and in the times i've seen them this year for the most part look way off being anywhere near ready if they ever will be.

Although we haven't got anything like the resources of Wigan or Leeds (who most people would view to have the best junior set up's in the league). What we do need is some stability and long term planning as to how we produce more better quality juniors.

Are we guilty of not giving them long enough to develop or, are we not bringing them on properly.

Either way, it is clear that, for whatever reason, we are not developing top quality juniors, capable of having a career in SL.

Apart from Ellis and Westwood, just how many of our juniors have gone on to establish themselves in SL.

We have big numbers of players in the Championship but, very, very few in SL.

Are we discarding players too soon ?

It doesn't give us much confidence to carry on paying into the Club1873. I agree we are discarding players too soon if this turns out to be true, season long loans tend to mean one thing.