The torso rule also applies while the ball is under control.
So if you are holding it at the side, not pressing down but holding it to your body, downward pressure from chest applies.


Making a dry dive on a bouncing ball with your arms outstretched isn't the same thing.


Either way it touched his hand and hit his body, it would still have been a knock on even facing his own posts.


It was a try. Lindop needed to clear the ball with confidence and unfortunately he didn't.

Quite apart from the result, the biggest disappointment to me was the the size of the crowd.
HKR and Warrington are both well supported clubs, and there were other finals taking place as well. 
I believe the gate was just over 63k!
Just my personal opinion but the magic of the challenge cup final at Wembley seems to have lost its magic to thousands of people.
I'd prefer it played in a full Old Trafford.
Doesn't look good on tv with huge unpopulated areas!

Totally agree on the attendance 1315, and the reason, but not the solution. My wife (who barely watches) didn’t understand why there were empty seats at a final, and it was a bit embarrassing explaining why.


I could’ve gone, and usually do, but didn’t. Main reason is because I’ll be going back to Wembley for the ashes in November, and I imagine that was on the mind of a lot of neutral/England fans.


I don’t think any two clubs could sell it out now. Wigan and Leeds obviously the most likely, but even then… 


Obviously back in the day the cup was the ultimate accomplishment. But I’m in my mid 30s, and I don’t understand why the cup final ever sold out. You have to play 4 games to get there, and 2 are usually walkovers if you’re an SL club. 


But I don’t think the solution is Old Trafford. You’d have the same issue with getting neutral fans to go to two big games at the same stadium, so both events end up being cannibalised. And it would consign us to being viewed as a strictly northern sport.


It’s hard because there’s not a load of money about, but I’d love to see cup final day being turned into a big party day with all the tradition baked in. DJs, stages outside, maybe a big halftime act, anything you can do to make it something fair weather fans would have to attend. Bit like Union 7s, NFL or NRL in Las Vegas.