I'm finding it difficult to credit Shudds with the win based entirely on their own endeavours.
HK were abysmal, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.
If Shudds strangled them out the game, they did so after HK placed the noose around their own necks and jumped.
Does that translate to Shudds providing a sterner test to the the Pies than Saints, I don't think so.
Whilst I'd love somebody outside the elite to win the tin pot, its still the pies by 20 I reckon, I do hope its closer though.

Tbf, they've had Ken's brass for years but, haven't exactly got a cabinet full of trophies.
Also, look at Warrington, spending shed loads of cash and not winning much.

Clearly, you want to have as much as you rivals but, without a decent coach, you will win rock all.

Which just shows how tricky it is. There is so much more to success than the one-dimensional ideas some fans have.

However, I still contend that with money you can flatter to deceive. Also as the Hudds fan on here stated, this has been building over a fair few seasons. We'll be able to judge that better in a few weeks I suppose.

Worth noting that it's not that long ago that Saints under Cunningham and especially were totally in the doldrums and it was cash that ultimately got them out of it. Ditto, it's only three years since we were back up there but lack of money has ensured we've stayed down.

I often wonder what would have happened with Saints had they not benefited from that last minute win against us. Holbrooke's 1st season in charge and no play off place and things might have panned out different for them not to mention for us.

Not having a go at Farrell put a post on a Topic were I said he as been one of the best over the last 5 year

I’m not saying you are but lots of people over the years have said how over rated he is which to me is completely baffling.