I was there yesterday supporting Hull FC. Of course we know Miller and Brough well. Brough for a short while was a cup winning influence for us. Miller much later, was the great hope who was just too young for SL when we had him.
I'm aware that on this thread Miller is getting a lot of stick. But yesterday he was the half who I saw as the main threat from you. But a 6 sometimes needs runners off him and that doesn't seem to be happening with Trin. If it did then it would keep opposing defences honest because they're covering all the options a lively 6 has.
The lack of runners means that we just had to snag Miller and the threat is nulled. It makes him look a worse player because we don't have to worry about the non-existent decoy runners. Just scrag Miller.
It wasnt so long ago Miller was an outstanding player for Trin with Finn at 7 the perfect foil for him. Miller looked very good and Trinity were playing some great stuff. He had many plaudits and he is the same player today really, but something around him has changed.
Danny Brough has been a great player, but the clock has ticked on and he just isn't great anymore, far from it in fact. Its hard for him I guess because he's been a Captain and organiser but these days all of his skills and threats are much less than they were.
Yesterday he didn't register for me as any kind of threat concern and I wasn't even sure he was really switched on. De-motivated so to speak.
If Danny had been released at the end of last season he wouldn't have got a gig with any other Super League club, but you gave him another run and your paying the price now. Just a gamble gone wrong, it happens.

In Miller you have a player, you've all seen it. On occasions he was winning some games on his own.
Its not an age thing with Milky, its organisational and its playing with the right partner. I thought Brough could be a perfect replacement for Finn, but he's not. He still wants to be the game breaker but he's not got it now. Infact he's nowhere near being that player these days.
In the Championship maybe he could be.
I think you all know what the negative catalyst is.

Why did the ref say a scrum to Hull when he had waved play on and 5 passes later a Hull player dropped the ball and the Wakey player looked to be going in to the clear,though the advantage rule had gone.

The ball had originally been tipped by a wakey player. It was a free play. The ref had wiped the tackle count clean to Hull were playing hot potato with it. The final knock on by Hull was irrelevant as it went back to the first offence.

I thought free play was not relevant this season? Advantage maybe but not free play.

There is no free play this season.

Fair play, I'd missed that.

This is what I have dug up on the rule changes

[iMeanwhile, the removal of the ‘free play’ comes after the overuse of the kick ahead into no man’s land and the subsequent breaks in play which have come about on the back of the rule coming in. Referees will instead have back the discretion to decide when a team’s advantage period is over.[/i

This suggest to me that providing you dont kick the ball on what used to be a free play or you make minimal yards, the ref could still award you the advantage.