I'll add something to this debate.

In just a few games we lost first in Tupou, TJ and Ashurst one of the best attacking edges in SL, either left or right. Then in just one horrific game we lost our 'brains' in Miller, Wood and Brough. It was like some dreadful computer crash. Yes there were back ups and they did ok but they were not the full application.

You tell me any team who could withstand that and who's playing performances would not drop! We ought to be grateful that we didn't go into meltdown and actually salvaged 4 points from the ordeal, most others would have. Even the mighty Saints would have felt what we have endured.

As many have pointed out its the quality not the quantity that has stuffed us. By quality I mean key players rather than workers, pivots as JK called them.

Now the brains at least are slowly returning and maybe some of the great left edge, so let's start judging what a more fully functional Trinity can do.

You say that like it's a bad thing, but I am very grateful he's not Hardaker!!

Personally I prefer Max at fullback, he's safe as houses and whilst not quite as quick or as creative he is certainly no slouch and he knows when to back up and come into the line.

Jowitt is a fine player. I get frustrated when he seems to be dropped as soon as we get back to full strength. He's definitely defensively the best full back. We need to work on the rest of his game. He needs more game time

For both max and Ben to show anywhere near their full potential they need game time ,they aren’t machines that produce said performance straight out of the box.Both players need the experience of first team rugby to develop their games ,this can’t be done by reading a book, it has to be done on the park . I’m sure both players will know their strengths and weaknesses without been put under the spotlightand bagged continually for mistakes
I can’t fault anyone for giving their all in a game and coming second best, that’s how you learn and evolve as a player, and so what if either never pulls a GB shirt on ,as long as they give their all for Trinity they’ll do for me .

Wow, we have only ever won 4 games @ magic weekend, we are bottom of the league for this event !
Come on up the Trin !