Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Don't no why campese needs resting he didn't take a tackle the other night. We looked tired yesterday. Still don't rate Salford. Hopefully we go at Hull kr big time. We really need a few in before end of season would be ideal timing'" I know lui dobbo sau vidot carney kopczak bmm jones are terrible players d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />

Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Don't no why campese needs resting he didn't take a tackle the other night. We looked tired yesterday. Still don't rate Salford. Hopefully we go at Hull kr big time. We really need a few in before end of season would be ideal timing'" I know lui dobbo sau vidot carney kopczak bmm jones are terrible players d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />

Didn't observe any laziness against Catalans.Mistakes-yes ie Simon's strip.I think for us it was like a cup final and the players suffered the after effects.Hopefully Thursday win or lose we will see a good performance.Interesting that after one loss the criticism from the 'experts' is creeping in . Lose another couple and it will probably be Chester out.

Didn't observe any laziness against Catalans.Mistakes-yes ie Simon's strip.I think for us it was like a cup final and the players suffered the after effects.Hopefully Thursday win or lose we will see a good performance.Interesting that after one loss the criticism from the 'experts' is creeping in . Lose another couple and it will probably be Chester out.

I know Scott Moore has his own discipline issues and wrongly banned for the non-offence in the Widnes game; but we miss this guy big time. Someone that scoots from dummy half and attacks the line before releasing is the catalyst of a good performance. I know Sio hasn't done a bad job but is very one dimensional, and Howarth rarely attacks the line. If we can grab maybe one more win before Moore returns then I think we have done a very good job. The performances will always pick up when we have a good quality on form hooker involved.

Quote ="MashPotatoes"I know Scott Moore has his own discipline issues and wrongly banned for the non-offence in the Widnes game; but we miss this guy big time. Someone that scoots from dummy half and attacks the line before releasing is the catalyst of a good performance. I know Sio hasn't done a bad job but is very one dimensional, and Howarth rarely attacks the line. If we can grab maybe one more win before Moore returns then I think we have done a very good job. The performances will always pick up when we have a good quality on form hooker ">involved.'" I couldn't agree more about Moore icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" /> He made such a difference to the team when he came back after injury, like you say he has more about him than the other two, but Sio has done pretty well to be fair to him. But of course we have won without him obviously, so no reason why we can't do so again, we just need to sharpen up in a few areas.

Quote ="MashPotatoes"I know Scott Moore has his own discipline issues and wrongly banned for the non-offence in the Widnes game; but we miss this guy big time. Someone that scoots from dummy half and attacks the line before releasing is the catalyst of a good performance. I know Sio hasn't done a bad job but is very one dimensional, and Howarth rarely attacks the line. If we can grab maybe one more win before Moore returns then I think we have done a very good job. The performances will always pick up when we have a good quality on form hooker ">involved.'" I couldn't agree more about Moore icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" title="Laughing" /> He made such a difference to the team when he came back after injury, like you say he has more about him than the other two, but Sio has done pretty well to be fair to him. But of course we have won without him obviously, so no reason why we can't do so again, we just need to sharpen up in a few areas.

Quote ="Wildmoggy"You've replied to a topic re. Discipline, yet didn't you shout someone down for pointing out we are the most penalised team in SL? If it was that obvious we were fatigued after the Catalan game then why didn't Chester see this? Surely you are criticising him but just not literally? Maybe we lost because we just didn't play very well, which in all honesty we haven't been doing for a few games now, the last few wins were all about sheer guts, determination and a bloody mindedness which we haven't seen for years. We are not playing any more games than anyone else, players were rested for the Tolouse game let's not forget, most of them forwards, England had a week off with his ban, so I don't think it's fatigue, we're just not playing great in many departments, and a few individuals are coming up with shortcuts and laziness, poor decision making etc. I don't think we've actually played well since the excellent demolition of ">Wigan.'" Have not shouted anyone down, I agree with most of what's posted on this thread but it's just a bit late to do anything about it for the Salford game or do you have a time machine - you still don't seem to like anyone having a different view from yourself - I'm like that but at least I know it. He did see we were fatigued, he said it in as many words in his after match interview at the Magic weekend. The rest of what you put makes sense

Quote ="Wildmoggy"You've replied to a topic re. Discipline, yet didn't you shout someone down for pointing out we are the most penalised team in SL? If it was that obvious we were fatigued after the Catalan game then why didn't Chester see this? Surely you are criticising him but just not literally? Maybe we lost because we just didn't play very well, which in all honesty we haven't been doing for a few games now, the last few wins were all about sheer guts, determination and a bloody mindedness which we haven't seen for years. We are not playing any more games than anyone else, players were rested for the Tolouse game let's not forget, most of them forwards, England had a week off with his ban, so I don't think it's fatigue, we're just not playing great in many departments, and a few individuals are coming up with shortcuts and laziness, poor decision making etc. I don't think we've actually played well since the excellent demolition of ">Wigan.'" Have not shouted anyone down, I agree with most of what's posted on this thread but it's just a bit late to do anything about it for the Salford game or do you have a time machine - you still don't seem to like anyone having a different view from yourself - I'm like that but at least I know it. He did see we were fatigued, he said it in as many words in his after match interview at the Magic weekend. The rest of what you put makes sense

Quote ="MashPotatoes"I know Scott Moore has his own discipline issues and wrongly banned for the non-offence in the Widnes game; but we miss this guy big time. Someone that scoots from dummy half and attacks the line before releasing is the catalyst of a good performance. I know Sio hasn't done a bad job but is very one dimensional, and Howarth rarely attacks the line. If we can grab maybe one more win before Moore returns then I think we have done a very good job. The performances will always pick up when we have a good quality on form hooker ">involved.'" Absolutely agree, he's the missing link. With him we look class, without him we are battlers - whether this ban is fair or not he's a lose cannon and always will be which is a real shame - if he could hold down the demon inside him he'd be one of the best in SL.

Quote ="MashPotatoes"I know Scott Moore has his own discipline issues and wrongly banned for the non-offence in the Widnes game; but we miss this guy big time. Someone that scoots from dummy half and attacks the line before releasing is the catalyst of a good performance. I know Sio hasn't done a bad job but is very one dimensional, and Howarth rarely attacks the line. If we can grab maybe one more win before Moore returns then I think we have done a very good job. The performances will always pick up when we have a good quality on form hooker ">involved.'" Absolutely agree, he's the missing link. With him we look class, without him we are battlers - whether this ban is fair or not he's a lose cannon and always will be which is a real shame - if he could hold down the demon inside him he'd be one of the best in SL.