Get Liam Finn snapped up - he can kick!

It was a joke, you grumpy old git!

I know but it's a tired one, I think we have moved on from that - less of the old please

It may be a long term plan we are employing but unfortunately this has become clouded by all the hype of new players, new ground, new stands etc. etc. Crowds have increased and so has expectancy of the team. The hardcore supporters will stick with the club, whatever, but the many extras who make up the recent increases may well not be so patient.

As for the on field performances it wouldn't be so bad if the team didn't collapse in the alarming way they have done in a few matches this season, I think it's at times such as that, that supporters question the heart and commitment of some of the players. probably this is why there are constant suggestions for players to be dropped! I don't mind losing as long as players have put effort in to win but sometimes it has to be questioned. Let's hope there is a suitable response against Salford!

Ten years, too bloody long for me.

Time not on my side.

Seriously , its how we define success.

That for me would be winning more than we lose.

Surely that can be achieved in a shorter timescale.

Then any thing above that would be icing on the cake.

I was a teenager in the glory days of the sixties and lack of success took some adjusting to.

We then went on to build a team with the likes of Burke, Juliffe, Fletcher,Smith,Ashurst,Skerret, Idle.

That team for whatever reasons was dismantled and we had to start again.

Nevertheless I still used to enjoy my rugby, with players such as Belly,Billy Conway ,Andy Mason etc

You always felt that we had a chance in a game.

This is quite a refreshing thread after all the Agar Out posts.



Personally, I agree with the timescales we are mentioning on here.

To be a top club would easily take 10 years. Warrington are a good example of how building takes time. Money didn't give them instant success.



I'd also say that short term goals are important too.

No one will remember how we lost against Cas and London if we win every game from now on. Of course there is a big in-between and we are not sure what will happen there, but I'm prepared to give it a season watching to see how that develops before we should start bringing new names in.



One thing that seems to be forgotten is that we are by no means an unskilled side.

Even against Cas, where people were saying we were rubbish, I thought we were great early on. Probably until Ali went off. We had a couple of length of the field breaks and looked very dangerous. Once Ali, and then Mathers (I think) went off to not return we were struggling in attack and then struggling with squad numbers. There are lots of reasons why we failed, most of which don't include lack of effort.



When we weren't quite getting there before Les Cats and Warrington I kept saying I thought they would really rattle up a score on someone. We did but then couldn't sustain the gains over the next couple of games.

Personally I think it will come back, with hard grounds and warm weather. We will miss Ali for a while so it isn't going to be easy for a while, but equally, maybe that's what we need for the togetherness.....



When we talk about previous squads who have lived and breathed and bled for Wakefield, they weren't born into that. They gained that spirit by facing some kind of adversary together and failing and winning accordingly. This team hasn't had chance for that yet. They may do by the end of the season but the only adversity they have faced is straight rugby game losses.



In time they will build a team spirit. It isn't just made by the coach telling you to do it.

It will come. I firmly believe it.