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prices already cut!

Bristol Rovers, Millwall, Yeovil all at home tonight pays 9/1

Never mind mate. I had Chesterfield to beat Aldershot

E/W accumulator today.



14:10 Exeter - Ministerofinteriour.

14:40 Exeter - Quaddick Lake.

15:10 Exeter - Cresswell Willow.

16:30 Lingfield - Mr Willis.

18:50 Kempton - Carnivore.

e/w still going but the frigging odds-on let u down

Yea i just checked my bet 3 winners and a 2nd with 1 horses left to run.



Let's hope Carnivore can bring home the bacon at Kempton

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I've got the same horses as you here, but with 20p stake, I dread to think how much I'm gonna win.



Around 74 pence?

What you actually have the same 5 horse

, what bet have you got them in.

yer, sorry







Just an accy for a win, but put them e/w also.

Hope the last horse comes in for the both of us then

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I only want it to win now because I'm intrigued to how much it would pay out.



I'm crap at estimating this, but I'll go for 1 pound 23 pence off the 20pence I staked.. If it pays out anymore, then I will be in dream world (I could buy 2 pints if it pays out 3.60.



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It should pay a bit more than that mate.



I placed a £2.50 E/W accumulator on all five and was quoted 239/1, obviously that only qualifys if all horses win but so far 3 out of 4 have won and a 2nd so if the last horse wins the odds wouldn't drop dramatically like you think, they would obviously drop but not by 100 points.



Have you bet 10p E/W making 20p or 20p E/W making 40p.



Actually your right you will get nothing





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20pence E/w making it 40pence if you get me





Ohh now you said that, I actually do hope it wins now

They'd drop a fair bit.



Say I had a 5/1 and 5/1 double that would be 25/1 but the place double at 1/5 the odds would be evs and evs.



It depends on the prices and the place terms but 5/1, 5/1, 8/1 treble will pay a good bit more than evs, evs, 2/1 which would be the odds if they were 1/5, 1/5 and 1/4 the odds.

That's a bit insulting to suggest i didn't know that.



This morning i took odds of 7/4, 6/4 and 3/1 Winners, 5/4 2nd and 5/2 still to run.

As always Mart, clear as f**k

£13.16 if your last one wins or is placed, LWF.

£1.05 likewise Invincible.



Slightly more if any races were 1/4 the odds a place; slightly less if there's a rule 4 on the 2.10 at Exeter.

Im not great on adding up odds on accumultors and Lucky 15's ect, but id be very disappointed with £13.16, ill check back and let you know what i end up with later.



That's if the last horse keeps upright.

have a look on william hills etc for there bet calculator very helpful

Well that's what I make it - you've effectively got an accumulator at the following odds (assuming 1/5 a place): 7/20, 3/10, 3/5, 1/4 and 1/2.



It's £13.16 - sorry to disappoint you.

Apologies if it came across that way it wasn't meant to.



Only need the place odds - it doesn't matter if you had 50 horses and 49 won and one placed the acca is for ALL horses to win or ALL to place. Equally if you had 49 winners and 1 come last there'd be no return on the bet





For a guaranteed return on the three winners the Yankee would be a better bet for 4 selections or a Canadian for 5 or a Heinz for 6.

Carnivore (6.50 Kempton) last of six unfortunately.

Do bookies still take "eachway all eachway" bets? These work out better if you've a double and only one wins.

Tried to place one in an independent Sarf Landan turf accountants many years back - Granville Again and Young Ernie (both won, ironically). Was told that "we can't have that, mate, it's a northern bet". LOL.

They do - fook knows how they work - we don't take them anyway





I know it's an ATC bet but that's about it tbh

Example;



£1 each way all each way treble

Winner 4/1 1/5 odds

Placed 6/1 1/5 odds

Winner 5/2 1/5 odds



1st leg (£1 each way) returns £6.80

this return is split equally each way

2nd leg (£3.40 each way) returns £7.48

this return is split equally each way

3rd leg (£3.74 each way) returns £18.70



The same each way treble (win to win, place to place) would work as follows;



Win part = Loser

Place part £1 treble 4/5, 6/5, 1/2 = £5.94



Each way all each way works better if you have some winners but not all.

If all are winners win to win, place to place produces a significantly greater return.



HTH.