I think you can get at their defence to be honest.

I do too as I think they are very susceptible to the passing game but I think Brady will have too much for us on offence.

Alright folks, been a reader/stalker of this NFL forum for a while, Can I join your gang



Not specifically got a team, tend to back 2 (AFC/NFC) teams a year for the SB and follow them.

Packers and Ravens this year, probably more hopeful on the packers this year, thought flacco would develop a little better with boldin and thought the defense wouldnt age as much it has. I'l post my betting selections (which in no way will win) see how I compare, hopefully jump in the fantasy mix aswell next year too

Support the Ravens pal. If you support the Packers you may start over evaluating your team and making daft predicitions.

Should be a great game the Jests and Patriots, lots of points and the team that makes the least mistakes will win, hopefully us

No daft predictions from me recently Mark.



Unlike your daft NFC rankings you put up. The number 1 team had been beaten by the number 2 team and the number 3 team had the best record!

Record means nish. When the experts rank them they don't take much notice of it. But like when you question the head of officiating, i'm sure you know better. When Vick was on the field they whooped you. The number one team had also beaten the number three team quite easily with their number two QB. It's a close call but to say Daft is a tad silly of you .How would you rank them?

I was just trying to wind you up Mark

. As for the head of officiating, i'm sure we've all questioned Stuart Cummins? How is that any differnet.



We are responsible for Vick being unleashed on the league as we knocked Kolb out of the game, Vick came in and granted played very well. He was effective because we had no gameplan prepared for him, i'm sure you can appreciate you have to gameplan differently for different style of QB. For Vick i'd imagine you'd aim to get more outside pressure and maybe play a Spy on him whereas Kolb you can come straight up the middle at him.



In all honesty i'd rank them:

1. Packers- We aren't rolling on all cylinders yet and we occassionally make stupid mistakes but our offence is starting to click. Our defence is argubaly the best of the top NFC teams. IIRC we are top 10 in run and top 15 againt the pass.



2. Atlanta- Impressive at home but it is somewhat over-exaggerated when you look at it. They can take anybody close at home but in outdoor stadiums they have played Steelers (LOST), Cleveland (WON- barely when Delhomme/Wallance were QB), Eagles (LOST). I expect them to be #1 seed as they only have to play Bucs, Panthers and Seattle away and should easily win 2 of those. I'm not convinced they have an good enough D though. (Maybe only my bias prevents me putting them at 1.)



3. Philadelphia- Very good team and the top 3 in my rankings are very close together. Atlanta are above them by virtue of being better at home, plus I seem them faltering when the weather gets worse.



4. Giants- You've had some good games and bad games but i think you'll come good down the stretch.



5. Saints- Still very good.



They aren't neccesarily the seed order I expect them to be in for the play-offs but how i'd rank them.

I'd pretty much agree with your NFC rankings there Conroy. Though I personally wouldn't have the Giants in the top 5. Top 2 the same, New Orleans at 3, Philly at 4 and probably the Bucs or the Bears at 5.

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Finally someone else gets caught for it. 2 out of 32 aint bad by Goodell`s standards I guess



I expect quite a few more to be "caught" soon then

I think after the top 3 (on mine) there are a few teams not too far apart. I think the Giants and Saints have the edge, then the likes of the Bucs and Bears like you say but i certainly wouldn't disagree too much with your assessment.

To be honest I might be alone in this but I just don't see this Giants team doing anything this season. They might make the playoffs but I don't think they will do much. I will almost certainly be wrong though.

He's got one of Bills boys though

How many other graduates of "Bills school of video recording" are head coaches in the NFL? Wonder if they will be under investigation as well

According to Bill Parcells in an article I read after we got fined, he reckoned 90% or more of teams do the same thing and have done for years, the Pats were just the ones that got caught first

ESPN -



1. Falcons

2. Eagles

3. Packers

4. Saints

5. Giants

6. Bucs

7. Bears





I wouldn't have you number one. I'll probably change my mind should you win sunday. The top three are quite close. I don't agree with your defence part though. We have the 2nd best in the league.

















































































Statistically. Although I think we're dodgy against the pass if our 4 don't get pressure.

I kinda get what you mean. I think if our starting wideouts come back healthy we'll be a threat as we have great balance offensively. Our biggest enemy this year has been ourselves.

That sounds about right to me. If we beat the Ravens tomorrow I think we definitely deserve a top 5 place.

CBS has it

1. Falcons (1 overall)

2. Eagles (4)

3. Saints (7)

4. Packers (icon_cool.gif

5. Bucs (10)



Fox has it

1. Falcons (2)

2. Saints (5)

3. Eagles (6)

4. Packers (icon_cool.gif

5. Bears (9)



USA today has it

1. Falcons (1)

2. Packers (5)

3. Saints (6)

4. Eagles (icon_cool.gif

5. Giants (10)

Not really sold on anyone yet. I think the falcons D will be exposed leaving Matt Ryan too much to do, the Giants D looks weak unless the front 4 can get some sort of pressure, The packers/Eagles are hinging on QB performance on the day, something I never like to trust (think carolina few years back.) It really is a toss up but least my bets are keeping it interesting for time being





The Bears and Bucs Im happy to see doing well, even though I hope the bears fall away a little. The Bucs I believe may get exposed against a good on form side, but them like the lions and rams can see being contenders in the next few years.

I really think this year no one has an epic epic defense like the steelers/ravens of yesteryears where they can make up for offensive shortcomings. I really see the entire post season resting On QBs shoulders, and then youll all get to argue about whose No1 QB (psst lets hope its rodgers but dont tell conroy i said that

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Hope that made sense my posts will get shorter its all bottled up thats all .

Welcome to the forum mate





I`m a diehard Patriots fan just incase you didn`t know





I love watching everything NFL though pretty much

I guessed, bah and a Rhino fan on top, christ



Think you'll batter the Jets next week too but like any other team really the D could let you down come play off time, although can see pats going deep. (Hows that for sitting on fence)

To be fair I agree (not about the jests game tho I am sitting on the fence too

), we can put plenty of points on anyone, but our D is very inexperienced although still good IMO but can also let in a boat load of points, I have said since the start of this season on here that I think our D will be awesome in the next 2 years so anything we do this years is a bonus.









Who`s your RL team btw?

Agreed on most of that really, were getting on alright for a cas and rhino fan

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You and Gaslight will get along well