We havent won the super bowl for years so it cant be working well or be true in the first place

Haven't won one since you were found out.

They only found one that they can prove from what ive heard against st louis. someone keeps sayin they have more but until they prove it i dont believe a word of it to be honest

Look at all the undrafted rookies Denver have signed amongst others www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true

Look at all the undrafted rookies Denver have signed amongst others www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true

Quote ="LFCRhino"Look at all the undafted rookies Denver have signed amongst others www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true'" Not many that are good though. Baker is a pretty decent player and could have gone anywhere from round 4 down.

Quote ="LFCRhino"Look at all the undafted rookies Denver have signed amongst others www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000 ... nfirm=true'" Not many that are good though. Baker is a pretty decent player and could have gone anywhere from round 4 down.

Fair play but I was being serious - that is impressive if you've come up with that on your own.

Slight tangent but I find it incredible the depth NFL teams go into when drafting players - was it Stafford who saw his backside with the 49ers because they were concerned that his parents divorce was affecting him? Crazy.

Ok. Yeah I came up with the ratings. I really love the draft it is fantastic. It's great reading about potential draft picks, especially ones the Packers may draft. If anything the later round picks are more interesting than the first round. Round one it is virtually guaranteed, barring any stupid drafts who people will take. Alot of mock drafts have had Raji to the Packers since last November for example.

ESPN America is also great for college football.



I never heard that!



I suppose for some teams it is more of an issue than others. Andre Smith (Bengals) was drafted six and he has major character concerns so they obviously don't mind it. Likewise Percy Hervin (Vikings), he is undoubtedly a talented player, but he could easily have fallen out of the first round all together.

As for what kind of stuff they get into with prospects, especially first round players, it is ridiculous i'd imagine. Frankly who can blame them when they are about to invest $millions in a player who is unproven.

Thankfully we seem to draft high character/decent guys off the field.

Bengals release Ryan Plackemeier and Kyle Larson today, I can see one of them ending up with the Colts, I had no idea that they'd released Hunter Smith and that he's gone to the Redskins.

I forget the name of it, but there is a great book looking behind the scenes at the Ravens. The stuff on the draft is fascinating. In fact, it all is - excellent read.

I've just bought 'From patsies to Superbowl champions - management secrets of the New England Patriots' - should be an interesting one!

Is it Next Man Up by John Feinstein?

I've not read it but apparently it is good.



Only one page needed for that. Cheat.

Tedy Bruschi's autobiography is a very good read. Talks alot about playing and then alot about the problems with his heart attack and how he came back to play.

Evolution Of A Game by Micheal Lewis is the next book i'm going to buy. It's about Michael Oher and his story.

It was chronicled in the New York Times as [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/magazine/24football.html?pagewanted=allThe Ballad Of Big Mike[/url

Im not sure they did i think he bacame a free agent

I like the LB San Diego picked up Darry Beckwith i think he should have been drafted in the first place

I thought Bruschi had a stroke and not a heart attack ?

He did

I agree, very glad they picked him up. Was projected as a mid rounder.

I saw some that had predicted a possible 2nd/3rd rounder so i think he is a steal

Its finally happened www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

Its finally happened www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

It is - absolutely belting read.

It is. I got it when it came out and found it a riveting read.

You guys have just got Amazon a sale.....

You'll enjoy it.

He did, my mistake.



I don't know why i put heart attack, i knew it was something like that.

I was thinking about who i think will win divisions next year after the draft is over.

So, I think:

NFC North: Green Bay Packers
NFC South: Atlanta Falcons
NFC East: New York Giants
NFC West: Seattle Seahwaks
NFC Wildcard 1: Philadelphia Eagles
NFC Wildcard 2: New Orleans Saints

AFC North: Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC South: Houston Texans
AFC East: New England Patriots
AFC West: San Diego Chargers
AFC Wildcard 1: Indianapolis Colts
AFC Wildcard 2: New York Jets

AFC Championship Game: Houston vs New England. Winner = Houston
NFC Championship Game: Atlanta v Green Bay. Winner = Green Bay

Superbowl: Green Bay v Houston. Winner = Green Bay

OROY: Viva Mark Sanchez
DROY: Brian Orakpo
DPOY: Jon Beason
MVP: Aaron Rodgers

I had to back Green Bay but if not i'd go with Atlanta.

Houston? That's a very big call.

I've been watching some Youtube clips of Michael Mitchell, the unknown guy the Raiders took in the 2nd round, and I have to say, he could actually not be such a bad pick overall, he hits like a JCB and is very fast. If he can cover to a good standard, then we could actually do okay with him.

I always tip Houston to get into the playoffs every year but this year i agree they have a great chance not just with the players they have but the fact that Indy have a new coach and the Titans dont have Haynesworth who i think was a huge part of their team. Watch bleedin Jacksonville have a stormer of a year now ffs