Seymour, Asmomugha and Lechler are the Raiders Pro bowlers. Surprised at Cundiff over Seabass though. Mariani over Ford is about 51/49. www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... ule=HP_cp2

Seymour, Asmomugha and Lechler are the Raiders Pro bowlers. Surprised at Cundiff over Seabass though. Mariani over Ford is about 51/49. www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... ule=HP_cp2

I had forgotten about Merriweather somehow

, but all my picks got in, dunno how Mankins did though hes been great but has barely played

Al Michaels just refered to Phili's young receivers as... wait for it.... puppies





Nice choice of words





Someone better warn them what he does when they grow up

Couple of things...

1) This game atm is there for the Vikings, eagles particularly Vick looking a little flat on offense, allen and the front 4 dominating with pressure on vick.

2) MVP easy peasy Brady, whether he wants it or not



3) Why shouldn't Vick be playing? I believe the Judicary system found him guilty, he went to federal prison and then came out. Its not the leagues right (imo) to ban someone for life after hes already being punished by a greater authority. FFS Dante stallworths playing in the league!



If the NFL were truly serious about all the players being true role models etc which they should be, they would increase the punishment for Performance related offences, and the million other NFL players get caught doing each week, drink driving, drugs etc.



Rant over, This game would be very different if the Vikes secondary could catch too

Someone get me a job on NBC

Michael Vick for MVF*



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I bet he leads them to a comeback now

Yep just a few minutes later

I cannot believe you are still banging on about this.



The United States has a legal system that means that, when people have paid their debt to society, they are allowed to get on with their lives. Michael Vick went to prison and lost, roughly, $100million. By any measure, he paid for what he did. Having done so, he should be allowed to get on with his life. What should he do - hang himself?



I thought you were studying law?



As for MVP, I agree, it should be Brady.

4 out of 6 ain't bad. The most overpaid safety made it as well. Rodgers missed out in favour of Brees..

I think Michael Vick still owes the Atlanta Falcons some money still.

Sky obviously learned their lesson regarding NFL SheisseZone. The two games for this week look good and hopefully it'll be snowing in Green Bay as it won't be the same not seeing a Green Bay home game in the snow.

Yes I am studying law. I'm well aware of how legal systems work and the theories of punishment (consequentialism and retributivism amongst others). My view on Vick has nothing to do with the law, as you say he has succesfully served his sentence, but my morals/ethics.



He has served his sentence (whether it was proportionate to the crime is another question as is whether he has paid for what he did) and should be allowed to re-intergrate into society. No question about that. However that doesn't mean he should walk back into the NFL.



The NFL has a position of power/responsibility/influence which IMO when you commit a crime such as Vick's you should forfeit. You don't automatically walk back into your old job after you've committed a crime so why is the NFL any different? Not only that but is Vick prevented from getting a "normal job"?



The same applies for Stallworth etc IMO. Including Jolly from us. I don't think he should be allowed back in the NFL.



He should be allowed to get on with his life, just not in the NFL. It isn't his right to play in the NFL, it is a privilege which should be taken away from people like him.

Shock result last night in Philli!



I had the Eagles as genuine superbowl contenders but not after last night! It's proven now by both the Vikes and the Giants that if you consistantly blitz Vick you get all kinds of joy!

Joe Webb: QB of the Future?

He looked pretty composed for a rookie. He made the correct throws and moved about well in his pocket. I'd like to see more of him!

The NFL are conspiring not to have the Bucs in the playoffs. I tell ya! First Atlanta playing like crap on Monday meaning we need other things out of our control to go our way now. Then the Vikes beating the Eagles last night! It means Chicago are guarenteed a bye now and might rest a few against the Packs, a game we need them to win if we are to have any chance of progressing. Damn you Mike Vick! Damn you Matt Ryan! You're all running scared of us!

You never know.

Are you just upset because he may knock you out of the playofss in the divisional round?

Try beating a good team and people may take notice.

If the Eagles play like they did last night they wont be beating anyone in the playoffs

Not really. Considering we'd have to play each other in the Wild Card round i doubt we could play each other again the week later.

Feel free to make the playoffs - if the Rams make it and get Tampa Bay then I'd fancy our chances a lot more than against all of the other NFC teams







I've somehow made the final of the RLFans fantasy league. Despite having the worst of my three fantasy teams (although my other teams lost in the semis and the final of the playoffs) I've managed to squeeze in by chopping and changing my QB almost every week with such brilliant players as Vince Young, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck, Kerry Collins and Tim Tebow. I also did it with one running back all season, having to play the likes of Clinton 'always injured' Portis, Donald Brown, Javarris James and other no-namers. Should be interesting to see if I can get some luck in the final

I made the final despite playing only 8 players last week.

Try not choking and you'd already be there

The one thing about the Bears game is the fact that Lovie knows the Bears fans would love to win the game and knock the Packers out of the playoffs so I can see him playing the 1st teamers longer than if we were playing any other team in the league.



I'm not suprised we've only got defensive players in the pro bowl team.The best bit of the pro bowl will be that at least the AFC will kick the ball to Hester.I think it's a travesty that P Manning got into the pro bowl team inplace of Cassell.Cassell has hardly turned the ball over all season while Manning couldn't stop throwing ints a couple of weeks ago.i doubt all 3 of Manning,Rivers and Brady will end up playing anyway so Cassell should be next in line for an invite when one of the three drops out.