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| bet he wouldn't insult Joe Jordan ?
certainly not twice !!!
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| I still think AVB will be here next year, everyone knows Chelsea have a very old group of players and massive personalitys so any manager will struggle except Jose.
Part of the results this season have been down to AVB and part down to the players. IMO some aren't good enough, players like Meireles, Bosingwa, Lampard, Drogba, Torres, Kalou, Mikel. We need at least 2 midfielders who can play the killer ball as currently we don't have one except Mata but hes playing wide.
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| Chelsea aren't the same team without Robben, Makalele and Ballack. And until they get quality players like that back in the side, they won't win anything!! Mikel, Kalou, Meireles etc all nowhere near good enough to be starting players, good squad players for the odd game here and there, but thats about it!!
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"Bet Carlos wishes he went to Spurs and got treated like a dog
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Unlikely. He's more likely to Winalot at City
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"bet he wouldn't insult Joe Jordan ?
certainly not twice !!!'"
Yawn. The continuing myth of Joe Jordan being a hardman. Missing a few teeth and being Scottish does not make you hard. He was a house as a player when he came up against anyone with a bit of grunt.
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"Yawn. The continuing myth of Joe Jordan being a hardman. Missing a few teeth and being Scottish does not make you hard. He was a house as a player when he came up against anyone with a bit of grunt.'"
deary me,Joe Jordan,as I recal watching him play regularly,was a decent player - Leeds were a top team and to get anywhere near to playing for them in that era meant he had to be useful - Man U don't sign many duff players either,as for AC Milan wanting him,well ?
not a worldbeater ok but deffo not a house !
give the guy [isome[/i credit mate !
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"deary me,Joe Jordan,as I recal watching him play regularly,was a decent player - Leeds were a top team and to get anywhere near to playing for them in that era meant he had to be useful - Man U don't sign many duff players either,as for AC Milan wanting him,well ?
not a worldbeater ok but deffo not a house !
give the guy [isome[/i credit mate !'"
I didn't make a comment about his ability. I was simply pointing out that he is/was not a hard man.
As for United buying duff players in the 80s......
He also wasn't with Leeds when they were a great side.
He was decent but not a standout player IMO.
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| Quote Enfield Exile="Enfield Exile"I didn't make a comment about his ability. I was simply pointing out that he is/was not a hard man.
As for United buying duff players in the 80s......
He also wasn't with Leeds when they were a great side.
He was decent but not a standout player IMO.'"
quite agree but just remind you of the Leeds Utd European Cup Final side in 1975 that lost to two late(ish) goals
Stewart,Madeley,Reaney,Bremner,Giles F.Gray,Hunter,Yorath,Clarke,Jordan,Lorimer,Clarke & E Gray as sub !
as I see it, that makes 12 players ALL of which were established internationals with 6 jocks,2 english,I paddy & I taffy
if that's your definition of a not 'great side' side then i'm obviously missing something !
just to remind you of the Man U side that lost to a very good Arsenal side in 1979 :
Bailey,Nicholl,Albiston,McCilroy,Buchan,McQueen,Coppel,J Greenhoff,Jordan,Macari, Thomas & B Greenhoff as sub
that makes 12 players with 11 internationals which isn't that bad surely ?
maybe you need to re assess his credentials ?
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| Are city really so desperate to win the league that they will welcome Tevez back into the fold for the title run in? 
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"quite agree but just remind you of the Leeds Utd European Cup Final side that lost to two latish goals
Stewart,Madeley,Reaney,Bremner,Giles F.Gray,Hunter,Yorath,Clarke,Jordan,Lorimer,Clarke & E Gray as sub !
as I see it, that makes 12 players ALL of which were established internationals with 6 jocks,2 english,I paddy & I taffy
if that's your definition of a not 'great side' side then i'm obviously missing something !
just to remind you of the Man U side that lost to a very good Arsenal side in 1979 :
Bailey,Nicholl,Albiston,McCilroy,Buchan,McQueen,Coppel,J Greenhoff,Jordan,Macari, Thomas & B Greenhoff as sub
that makes 12 players with 11 internationals which isn't that bad surely ?
maybe you need to re assess his credentials ?'"
RE the Leeds team: Jordan was not a regular the while time he was there. He was never particularly prolific and offered little outside the box. He may have played in Milan but they were not the great team then than they have been in other periods of their history. It was pretty much Milan's leanest period.
RE the United team: That team was not very good at all. Gary Bailey, Arthur Albiston, Sammy McIlroy, Jimmy Nichol, Martin Buchan, Gordon McQueen and the Greenhoff's were average players. While Mickey Thomas was the 70s/80s equivalent of Lee Trundell. That team proved they were never good enough to win the league. It was only when Robson came along that United looked a top team.
Coppell was a top player though. Superb on his day.
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| Quote Karlos13="Karlos13"Are city really so desperate to win the league that they will welcome Tevez back into the fold for the title run in?
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Not as desperate as having to drag someone out of retirement. 
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| Joe Hart has the best saves to shots ratio (79%) of any regular goalkeeper in the 2011/12 Premier League.
Theo Walcott has made 103 crosses from open play and found a team-mate with just 14 this season.
Luis Suarez’s conversion rate (8.3%) in the Premier League compared to the PL average for a striker of 16%.
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| I see Everton have announced they have signed 20 year old wonderkid Francisco Junior today.
(Anyone know who is he? Got to be good with a name like that, surely?)
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I see Everton have announced they have signed 20 year old wonderkid Francisco Junior today.
(Anyone know who is he? Got to be good with a name like that, surely?)'"
Ex Benfica, rejected by City apparently, though he has already played Portugal Uner 21 footy.
Given a 4 and half year deal though and even given a squad number.....Be interesting to see how he develops.
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| Quote Karlos13="Karlos13"Are city really so desperate to win the league that they will welcome Tevez back into the fold for the title run in?
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You mean buy the league? 
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| Quote Karlos13="Karlos13"Are city really so desperate to win the league that they will welcome Tevez back into the fold for the title run in?
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If accepting Tevez back into the side helps them lift the title then of course they should do it.
I actually think it has far more potential to have an Asprilla effect though. Especially when the first thing the ****er does when getting back into the squad is have a moan about how he's been treated.
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| I see Lee Clarke has been sacked by Huddersfield. Seems a tad strange as they are still well within chance of achieving promotion this season. Does this hint that he's off to one of the vacant jobs? If so seems daft to sack him as they will have to pay compensation when they could have received compensation had he left for another club.
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| Sacking Lee Clark comes across as a woeful board decision. Unless something comes out later that he warranted sacking.
Bright young manager, shouldn't find a problem getting work.
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| Quote Conman="Conman"Sacking Lee Clark comes across as a woeful board decision. Unless something comes out later that he warranted sacking.
Bright young manager, shouldn't find a problem getting work.'"
I'm pretty sure they were buttering him up in the press recently. I'm sure I read about their Chairman saying he's a PL manager through and through and that he's done a great job etc recently.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I'm pretty sure they were buttering him up in the press recently. I'm sure I read about their Chairman saying he's a PL manager through and through and that he's done a great job etc recently.'"
That's what I mean. Something doesn't add up.
Never mind, Steve Bruce is available...
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| Couple of good goals for Milan so far tonight. That KP Boateng one was ruined though by the fact that it didn't hit the net! 
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