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Quote 19.6% - Mick McCarthy has the lowest win % of any manager to take charge of 100+ PL games. Axed'"
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| so how come teams are willing to take him on ?
how could any player get motivated by such a tedious character ?
spot the personality !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"so how come teams are willing to take him on ?
how could any player get motivated by such a tedious character ?
spot the personality !'"
Martin O'Neill is touted as a future England or Man Utd manager His win record at Wycombe, Norwich, Leicester and Villa was between 38% and 46%.
McCarthy's win % are between 36% and 46% (including his stint as RoI boss).
Getting a low win stat is only to be expected when you are managing at teams like the newly promoted Sunderland and Wolves. But on the other hand you've got to factor in the fact he has taken sides to the Premier League as well., It;s not like he is without merit as a manager. Any Championship side with ambitions of getting into the PL will be interested, and McCarthy has also kept sides in the PL as well.
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Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Martin O'Neill is touted as a future England or Man Utd manager His win record at Wycombe, Norwich, Leicester and Villa was between 38% and 46%.
McCarthy's win % are between 36% and 46% (including his stint as RoI boss).
Getting a low win stat is only to be expected when you are managing at teams like the newly promoted Sunderland and Wolves. But on the other hand you've got to factor in the fact he has taken sides to the Premier League as well., It;s not like he is without merit as a manager. Any Championship side with ambitions of getting into the PL will be interested, and McCarthy has also kept sides in the PL as ">well.'"
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Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Martin O'Neill is touted as a future England or Man Utd manager His win record at Wycombe, Norwich, Leicester and Villa was between 38% and 46%.
McCarthy's win % are between 36% and 46% (including his stint as RoI boss).
Getting a low win stat is only to be expected when you are managing at teams like the newly promoted Sunderland and Wolves. But on the other hand you've got to factor in the fact he has taken sides to the Premier League as well., It;s not like he is without merit as a manager. Any Championship side with ambitions of getting into the PL will be interested, and McCarthy has also kept sides in the PL as ">well.'"
that's fair comment
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| McCarthy is one of those managers like Neil Warnock, who is a very good Championship Manager, good at gettign teams promoted, but once he gets there he begins to struggle.
Hope Wolves stay up, they're the Premier League side whose result I look for first.
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Quote ="Goochie"McCarthy is one of those managers like Neil Warnock, who is a very good Championship Manager, good at gettign teams promoted, but once he gets there he begins to struggle.
Hope Wolves stay up, they're the Premier League side whose result I look for ">first.'"
fantastic ground and loyal fans who deserve to see top level football IMO
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Quote ="Goochie"McCarthy is one of those managers like Neil Warnock, who is a very good Championship Manager, good at gettign teams promoted, but once he gets there he begins to struggle.
Hope Wolves stay up, they're the Premier League side whose result I look for ">first.'"
fantastic ground and loyal fans who deserve to see top level football IMO
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| Glasgow Rangers have gone into administration. Anyone got a quid to buy them?
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Quote ="Goochie"McCarthy is one of those managers like Neil Warnock, who is a very good Championship Manager, good at gettign teams promoted, but once he gets there he begins to struggle.
Hope Wolves stay up, they're the Premier League side whose result I look for ">first.'"
Given the mammoth advantage Premier League teams have financially over the promoted Championships sides that's hardly a thing to hold against McCarthy in my opinion. He will get another job if he wants one.
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Quote ="Goochie"McCarthy is one of those managers like Neil Warnock, who is a very good Championship Manager, good at gettign teams promoted, but once he gets there he begins to struggle.
Hope Wolves stay up, they're the Premier League side whose result I look for ">first.'"
Given the mammoth advantage Premier League teams have financially over the promoted Championships sides that's hardly a thing to hold against McCarthy in my opinion. He will get another job if he wants one.
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| I hear Rooney has Twittered "funny how the 2 toures were there all the way and lost" re last night's ACoN final
What a truly classless individual. I really hope the Toures remember this, come the Derby in April.
Of course, Wayne has been involved in many international finals, hasn't he......
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"10 point gap between Real and Barca now. Wonder if coming second in their league will diminish their title of "Greatest side ever"?'"
Doesn't matter anyway, Real winning the league wont mean anything to them as they've not beaten Barca................
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">www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/13/chelsea-players-andre-villas-boas-row?cat=football&type=article'"
I think this may be a manager too far for 'player power'
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">www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/13/chelsea-players-andre-villas-boas-row?cat=football&type=article'"
I think this may be a manager too far for 'player power'
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| Herman Munster head Tevez says Mancini treated him like a dog. I've never heard of a dog that refused to chase a football around before.
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Quote ="Catalancs"Herman Munster head Tevez says Mancini treated him like a dog. I've never heard of a dog that refused to chase a football around ">before.'"
Bet Carlos wishes he went to Spurs and got treated like a dog
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Quote ="Catalancs"Herman Munster head Tevez says Mancini treated him like a dog. I've never heard of a dog that refused to chase a football around ">before.'"
Bet Carlos wishes he went to Spurs and got treated like a dog
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| bet he wouldn't insult Joe Jordan ?
certainly not twice !!!
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| I still think AVB will be here next year, everyone knows Chelsea have a very old group of players and massive personalitys so any manager will struggle except Jose.
Part of the results this season have been down to AVB and part down to the players. IMO some aren't good enough, players like Meireles, Bosingwa, Lampard, Drogba, Torres, Kalou, Mikel. We need at least 2 midfielders who can play the killer ball as currently we don't have one except Mata but hes playing wide.
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| Chelsea aren't the same team without Robben, Makalele and Ballack. And until they get quality players like that back in the side, they won't win anything!! Mikel, Kalou, Meireles etc all nowhere near good enough to be starting players, good squad players for the odd game here and there, but thats about it!!
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Quote ="Roddy B"Bet Carlos wishes he went to Spurs and got treated like a dog
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Unlikely. He's more likely to Winalot at City
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Quote ="Roddy B"Bet Carlos wishes he went to Spurs and got treated like a dog
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Unlikely. He's more likely to Winalot at City
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| Quote ="sanjunien"bet he wouldn't insult Joe Jordan ?
certainly not twice !!!'"
Yawn. The continuing myth of Joe Jordan being a hardman. Missing a few teeth and being Scottish does not make you hard. He was a house as a player when he came up against anyone with a bit of grunt.
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Quote ="Enfield Exile"Yawn. The continuing myth of Joe Jordan being a hardman. Missing a few teeth and being Scottish does not make you hard. He was a house as a player when he came up against anyone with a bit of ">grunt.'"
deary me,Joe Jordan,as I recal watching him play regularly,was a decent player - Leeds were a top team and to get anywhere near to playing for them in that era meant he had to be useful - Man U don't sign many duff players either,as for AC Milan wanting him,well ?
not a worldbeater ok but deffo not a house !
give the guy [isome[/i credit mate !
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Quote ="Enfield Exile"Yawn. The continuing myth of Joe Jordan being a hardman. Missing a few teeth and being Scottish does not make you hard. He was a house as a player when he came up against anyone with a bit of ">grunt.'"
deary me,Joe Jordan,as I recal watching him play regularly,was a decent player - Leeds were a top team and to get anywhere near to playing for them in that era meant he had to be useful - Man U don't sign many duff players either,as for AC Milan wanting him,well ?
not a worldbeater ok but deffo not a house !
give the guy [isome[/i credit mate !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"deary me,Joe Jordan,as I recal watching him play regularly,was a decent player - Leeds were a top team and to get anywhere near to playing for them in that era meant he had to be useful - Man U don't sign many duff players either,as for AC Milan wanting him,well ?
not a worldbeater ok but deffo not a house !
give the guy [isome[/i credit mate !'"
I didn't make a comment about his ability. I was simply pointing out that he is/was not a hard man.
As for United buying duff players in the 80s......
He also wasn't with Leeds when they were a great side.
He was decent but not a standout player IMO.
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Quote ="Enfield Exile"I didn't make a comment about his ability. I was simply pointing out that he is/was not a hard man.
As for United buying duff players in the 80s......
He also wasn't with Leeds when they were a great side.
He was decent but not a standout player ">IMO.'"
quite agree but just remind you of the Leeds Utd European Cup Final side in 1975 that lost to two late(ish) goals
Stewart,Madeley,Reaney,Bremner,Giles F.Gray,Hunter,Yorath,Clarke,Jordan,Lorimer,Clarke & E Gray as sub !
as I see it, that makes 12 players ALL of which were established internationals with 6 jocks,2 english,I paddy & I taffy
if that's your definition of a not 'great side' side then i'm obviously missing something !
just to remind you of the Man U side that lost to a very good Arsenal side in 1979 :
Bailey,Nicholl,Albiston,McCilroy,Buchan,McQueen,Coppel,J Greenhoff,Jordan,Macari, Thomas & B Greenhoff as sub
that makes 12 players with 11 internationals which isn't that bad surely ?
maybe you need to re assess his credentials ?
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Quote ="Enfield Exile"I didn't make a comment about his ability. I was simply pointing out that he is/was not a hard man.
As for United buying duff players in the 80s......
He also wasn't with Leeds when they were a great side.
He was decent but not a standout player ">IMO.'"
quite agree but just remind you of the Leeds Utd European Cup Final side in 1975 that lost to two late(ish) goals
Stewart,Madeley,Reaney,Bremner,Giles F.Gray,Hunter,Yorath,Clarke,Jordan,Lorimer,Clarke & E Gray as sub !
as I see it, that makes 12 players ALL of which were established internationals with 6 jocks,2 english,I paddy & I taffy
if that's your definition of a not 'great side' side then i'm obviously missing something !
just to remind you of the Man U side that lost to a very good Arsenal side in 1979 :
Bailey,Nicholl,Albiston,McCilroy,Buchan,McQueen,Coppel,J Greenhoff,Jordan,Macari, Thomas & B Greenhoff as sub
that makes 12 players with 11 internationals which isn't that bad surely ?
maybe you need to re assess his credentials ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"quite agree but just remind you of the Leeds Utd European Cup Final side that lost to two latish goals
Stewart,Madeley,Reaney,Bremner,Giles F.Gray,Hunter,Yorath,Clarke,Jordan,Lorimer,Clarke & E Gray as sub !
as I see it, that makes 12 players ALL of which were established internationals with 6 jocks,2 english,I paddy & I taffy
if that's your definition of a not 'great side' side then i'm obviously missing something !
just to remind you of the Man U side that lost to a very good Arsenal side in 1979 :
Bailey,Nicholl,Albiston,McCilroy,Buchan,McQueen,Coppel,J Greenhoff,Jordan,Macari, Thomas & B Greenhoff as sub
that makes 12 players with 11 internationals which isn't that bad surely ?
maybe you need to re assess his credentials ?'"
RE the Leeds team: Jordan was not a regular the while time he was there. He was never particularly prolific and offered little outside the box. He may have played in Milan but they were not the great team then than they have been in other periods of their history. It was pretty much Milan's leanest period.
RE the United team: That team was not very good at all. Gary Bailey, Arthur Albiston, Sammy McIlroy, Jimmy Nichol, Martin Buchan, Gordon McQueen and the Greenhoff's were average players. While Mickey Thomas was the 70s/80s equivalent of Lee Trundell. That team proved they were never good enough to win the league. It was only when Robson came along that United looked a top team.
Coppell was a top player though. Superb on his day.
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