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| I'd take Rodgers over Cutler any day of the week. Cutler is bad news. The hype got him into the pro bowl last year. What was it, 18 interceptions? I'd pass on that, thanks.
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| Quote ="RedTez"I'd take Rodgers over Cutler any day of the week. '"
Definately. A-Rod might not yet be at the same level as Cutler but he is definately showing signs he can be an elite player and was, coming out of college, touted as a number one overall pick. I bet San Fran wish they had taken A-Rod over Smith. Don't get me wrong i'd definately rather have A-Rod but i'm a big Cutler fan.
Quote ="RedTez"Cutler is bad news. The hype got him into the pro bowl last year. What was it, 18 interceptions? I'd pass on that, thanks.'"
The pro-bowl is worthless anyway. So many players get picked who don't deserve it.
Yep 18 interceptions which is second highest only to Favre with 22. He did have the fourth highest yards though i think.
Quote ="RedTez"The organisation have put themselves behind the balck ball a bit now. Teams know they need to trade, so the value automatically goes down. The one thing in the Broncs favour is the fact that their are likely 4 or 5 teams (at least) interested, so that will push the value back up a bit. The best case for them now is the Browns 1st round pick and Brady Quinn. If they get that (or anywhere near it) they have played a blinder.'"
Apparently 8-10 teams interested.
I agree, if they want a QB in return then the Browns provide the best value with Quinn but surely they would want more than Quinn and the 5th. I'd expect Quinn, 5th overall pick and next years 1st round pick.
In terms of overall though, i still maintain Tampa is the best place. They get a mid to late round pick this year, a player and next years first round. I doubt they want to be lumbered with the 5th overall and 12th overall in terms of the amount it would cost for contracts.
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| Isaac Bruce is gonna play another saeson with the 49ers after all.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Isaac Bruce is gonna play another saeson with the 49ers after all.
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I think its because Singletary is off his rocker
Bruce is what 97 years old now? Big gamble.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Isaac Bruce is gonna play another saeson with the 49ers after all.
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The recievers they have is irrelevant considering they don't have anybody to throw the ball to them.
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| Wow.
Jay Cutler will still be wearing Blue and Orange next year
In the Windy city.
According to Jay Glazer the deal is two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.
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Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"Wow.
Jay Cutler will still be wearing Blue and Orange next year
In the Windy city.
According to Jay Glazer the deal is two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.
Wow.
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www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?i ... oryID=8930
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Jay Cutler will still be wearing Blue and Orange next year
In the Windy city.
According to Jay Glazer the deal is two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.
Wow.
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www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?i ... oryID=8930
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| I don't believe it,after all the things i've said about him i've now got to cheer for him What the Bears have given up is too much,we've not got anybody for him to throw to unless Hester breaks out into a top class reciever this year.The Bears also signed Orlando Pace today to help the O line which needs a lot of help.
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| Sunday August 30 in Denver preseason game
Broncos v Bears
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| DAR, as soon as I saw that I had a chuckle to myself! You ust be gutted!
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| Quote ="DAR130"I don't believe it,after all the things i've said about him i've now got to cheer for him
What the Bears have given up is too much,we've not got anybody for him to throw to unless Hester breaks out into a top class reciever this year.The Bears also signed Orlando Pace today to help the O line which needs a lot of help.'"
I don't think it is too much.
Take a WR with your 2nd round pick. Hester should be alot better with a QB who can actually throw the ball deep.
Unfortunately, as much as i like Cutler i now how to hate him!
Get used to it Jay!
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| Pace and Schaffer will make that Bears O-Line a lot better, and it will help take some pressure off of Matt Forte.
Expect the Broncos to move up now, the chart that most teams use would make their 2 first rounders between 3rd (Unlikely to trade, it's KC) and 4th (Seattle)
Unless Seattle wants a franchise QB at that spot, I can see them trading down with Denver.
Apparantly BJ Raji has tested positive for an unnamed substance, so his draft stock could plummet now.
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| Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"Apparantly BJ Raji has tested positive for an unnamed substance, so his draft stock could plummet now.'"
Depends what it is.
Supposedly only Marajuana. If thats the case i can't see him falling past us at nine. Aquib Talib failed a drug test for weed and went higher than many predicted. Warren Sapp even failed a test for weed.
I hope teams take it into account, like the Bengals and Oakland and then hopefully we can get him.
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| Who are Miami going to take in the draft then ?
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| Who wants to bet Cutler will ask for another trade by the end of the week when he realises hes left the better team
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| In all honesty this is a good move for the bears although they have way overpaid IMO but maybe thats what other teams offered aswell so i guess it showed just how much they wanted him
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Who are Miami going to take in the draft then ?
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Depends, potentially anybody who falls from the teens but more than likely the top CB.
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| I don't think Oakland would take him to be honest, WR is a much greater need, and with Crabtree and Maclin both possibly on the board, one of those 2 will be taken.
The Bengals may move for him, but they could easily take an OT or WR instead, I do get the feeling though that if the Lions don't take Stafford, he could fall out of the 10, unless the Broncos or Seahawks want him.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Depends, potentially anybody who falls from the teens but more than likely the top CB.'"
Haven't they just taken a CB from Arizona as a free agent ?
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| Apparently USC linebackers Cushing and Matthews [url=http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/usc_linebackers_test_positive.htmltest positive[/url too.
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| Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"I don't think Oakland would take him to be honest, '"
Maybe not but he is definately an option.
Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"WR is a much greater need, and with Crabtree and Maclin both possibly on the board, one of those 2 will be taken.'"
Maclin is not a player that should be taken with the number 7 pick at all. Crabtree yes but he will be gone before 7. I think Maclin will fall to the 20's so they could trade up for him from the second round. But absolutely no way do they take him at 7.
Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"The Bengals may move for him, but they could easily take an OT or WR instead, I do get the feeling though that if the Lions don't take Stafford, he could fall out of the 10, unless the Broncos or Seahawks want him.'"
Bengals i suppose could take WR but Crabtree will be gone by then and Maclin isn't good enough. They probably will go OT but Raji is a definate option.
I can't see Stafford falling much, Sanchez may though. If Stafford doesn't go number one which is unlikely i can see him going to the Rams at 2, Seattle at 4, Cleveland at 5, Jacksonville at 8 or even San Fran at 10. That or even a trade up by a team.
Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Haven't they just taken a CB from Arizona as a free agent ?'"
I think so but he's not really that good. Eric Green. I'd still say they take the top CB or potentially a WR.
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| What goes through these peoples minds
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