Why arrogant? He had said all week how tough a game it would be as he knew Smith would have everyone behind the ball and show new attacking intent whatsoever.



Look at the side, lots of quality players and many who often feature in the big games for Utd. Okay no Vidic/Evra but we were hardly going to need our defence too much anyway. Scholes and Berba might have made a difference but Gibson played well and Fletcher/Park often play in Europe anyway.



They were hard to break down and it did not help that Rooney was awful.

Broken ankle and suspected dislocation too.



Awful injury, hopefully he gets back soon, for himself, and a selfish POV. We need him. He's a massive threat, and one of the only players' in the squad who can get a decent ball into the box. If Rooney's ever going to score in open play again he'll need it putting on a plate.

Fergie has a history of making wholesale changes. The defence was never worried, so it's good to give fringe players like Brown and Smalling a run out. They shouldn't be anywhere near the team on Sunday.







I can understand why he made the changes. We've been poor in the League so far this season, so we need our top players fully fit for Sunday's game against Liverpool. Even at this stage of the season, it's looking like a must win to give us any hope of winning the League.



He knew that the team he played wasn't going to lose to Rangers, and there should've been enough to beat them. But, fair play to Rangers, they did what most teams try to do at OT and packed the midfield and defended solidly at it came off. In the first game in Europe it's important not to lose. We should still qualify pretty easily from this group.

Group stages of the CL are abit of a joke really. 10 changes to a team? Instead of playing their best 11. Glad Rangers grabbed a draw.

Glad Rio is back. Even an out of form Torres should run him and Vidic ragged.



Hopefully.



Please.

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As much as I like Park, these games against teams who 'park the bus' are not suited to him.

He isn't going to play defence splitting passes and his finishing isn't clinical enough should a chance come his way.

Baffles me why Fergie thinks his industry & work-rate is needed in these games over someone with a bit more creativity

Well without Valencia we're f*cked. It now means we only have Nani out wide who can create things. "No value in the market", but we could've got RVDV for £8m.

Indeed, and why should we want a player who played in the World Cup Final (albeit as a sub) when the circa £8mn we did have could go to an "impulse buy" for a player who weeks previously had moved for free from the Portuguese 3rd Division and who plays in a position where we already had a suitable number of options.



Still, there's always Obertan ...

Portuguese tramps are the future of football mate

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Anyone see Muller's goal for Bayern? Superb.

David Ngog

Brilliant finish.

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Dan - Managed to pick up a ticket for tomorrow.

Is right mate, I knew you'd sort something in the end. You in the away end?

Aye. There's no chance we'd have gone in the home end and seen the game out.

Setting off at about 10 as we have to go via Preston but we should get there quite early.

Anyone see Le Tiss then on Soccer Saturday "made a complete....(cogs turning) big error"





Looked like he was gonna say balls up until he remembered he was on TV.

Stoke 1-1 West Ham. After 64 minutes. Stoke equalised through Kenwyne Jones after Scott Parker gave Hammers the lead in the first half.

What a goal from Ben Arfa.

Wolves beating Tottenham.