Grapple on

If you're not down with that i've got two words for ya..

"Lock It"

And Raw sucked Monday. WWE have just killed off Orton as a credible top heel by dropping what was working for him (vicious, devious heel) and turning him into a Jerico lite with his therapist and lawyers backing him up.

And Micky Rouke vs Jerico at WM? Why? And why have him announce it in a "i'm doing a wrestling angle" kind of way? stupid stupid stupid

and here comes shane to save the day. might need to get in the gym there shane-o as that's some of the worst offense ive seen outside a Great Khali match and he was blown up after about 4 hits

Again WWE will have to rely on Taker, HBK, and Edge for their good matches at Mania.

Orton is still that heel, his smugness and lack of sincerity in the promo was there to see.

but its not the viscious, unappologetic heel that he's been portraying for the last year or so. it's the cringing, cowardly heel that jerico has been doing. it's killed his charater as a credible threat and on top of that he's gonna get his ass handed to him by shane mcmahon of all people.

Has he had Botox done ?

Orton's character is now in serious limbo like Jericho's, as Roofaldo said.

"As the father of a newborn", for instance, yet the other week he was knobbing that bint Kane was after. I think they are trying to latch on to the current trend of Sports Stars and Celebs being diagnosed with illnesses such as Bi-Polar, though, and the IED excuse fits in nicely with his entrance music.

I rarely keep abreast of behind the scenes with the WWE anymore, does anyone know what the craic is with Harry Smith? I'd have thought he and TJ Wilson would've been an ideal, if obvious, team to fude with Orton's 'Legacy' boys, hopefully to allow Orton to maintain main event status, whilst also nurturing the Orton Lites in the lower card with Promos and vignettes and perhaps the odd six man tag/interference.

To me, Orton has the potential to be one of the best heels in WWE history. He is naturally cocky, arrogant and charismatic.

I still think they can put a decent Money in the bank match on if they think about it properly...

I'd like to see Jeff and Matt Hardy in it together especially after Matts Heel turn..
Possibly Rey Mysterio,Evan Bourne(if he's ready to return),John Morrison,Shelton Benjamin...

Get the High flyers in there should be good entertainment..

watching the royal rumble

i would of thought hbk vs taker looks on for wrestlemania

I would be surprised if it wasn't with it being in Texas.

Both are in FCW (WWE's Development school in Florida) full time working as a tag team. Harry Smith actually chose to go back to development because he thought he needed more time, he'll only be 24 later this year.

The Hardy's will be a top match plus to be fair Cena can produce on the big stage.

Taker v Show looks to be on the cards for Wrestlemania (Can I be the first to push the abreviation of WTF).

I'd like to see a TLC match between Miz & Morrison, Carlito & Primo, & Kofi & Punk.

I hope Khali doesn;t get much airtime for the event as in the rumble he sucked, & was 3/4 the way out before the Russian (can;t spell Koslov) got near him.

Rubbish - not even the WWE are that daft. They've just had a 4 month long feud with around 6 matches.

looking at what taker said to micheals made me think that something is going to happen

i hope so

Been a long-standing rumour has that.

But JBL vs Michaels is more likely at the moment.

Brother V Brother at 'Mania.
No tiresome and repetitive at all.



Can I be the second?


I've never got the point of a TLC match. A simple ladder match is no DQ, anyway, so tables and chairs would/could be used regardless. Using the name TLC simply gives away that other weapons WILL be used, thus, in my opinion, ruining any surprise element high table spots could create.




OMG that was the WORST exit from a battle royal I have ever seen. It wasn't helped by the bad camera angle, like, but that was pathetic. I wasn't liking the momentum Koslov was generating in his little stint in the rumble, either. I thought they were going to have him beat that 11 elimination record they'd dragged out before hand.



Wouldn't exactly be the first time they've began to build up a feud for it to fizzle out into nothing.

Press reports today suggest Mickey Rourke's is twitching about going through with his (and Flair/Piper/Afa) match v Jericho.

Agree on the TLC. Maybe there should be a stipulation that you have to put an opponent through a table or hit them with a chair before being able to climb the ladder to make it distinct from a ladder match.

Mania is always awesome, I'm sure it won't disappoint.

When was the last time anyone genuinely 'marked out'?
And does anyone do it often?

Flair at Mania?

Eddie Guererro's title win. Not having Sky Sports and them charing for every pay per view has lead me to drift away from the sport.

I'm also unhappy at being expected to mark out for legends even if they are basically cripples who have no place in a wrsetling ring.

I think Morrison could win MITB, and it would be pretty clever for him to cash it in after one of the two main events, he's one of the best things going atm IMO.