I thought there were a few forward passes let go. Robertson stuck to his task well, after a shaky start, and all credit to the lad. ZE did great, and I thought Thompson was just massive. Would have loved him to get a try.

I thought there were a few forward passes let go. Robertson stuck to his task well, after a shaky start, and all credit to the lad. ZE did great, and I thought Thompson was just massive. Would have loved him to get a try.

I thought there were a few forward passes let go. Robertson stuck to his task well, after a shaky start, and all credit to the lad. ZE did great, and I thought Thompson was just massive. Would have loved him to get a try.

Sorry about that!

Gotta be taking the

What a win that is against all the odds, terrible night for all those who thought we were a 1/2 man team.



We showed why we are the kings of rugby and the best club in world.



The hooker issue really hampered us but we found a way.

I fully agree with you there. I am sick of seeing windmills on the pitch. O’Neill was a massive miss for us tonight, in my opinion he is the best 9 in SL. There are going to be a lot of sore bodies tomorrow, I think a few will be struggling for next week.

Serious question, why is Welsby so petulant? I can’t see him having a night down King St any time soon.

French out for 8 weeks, so it's even more pleasing to see Eckersley look so comfortable at fullback. He'll be needed between now and Field coming back. It's frustrating to lose Field and French at the same time but it's going to pay off handsomely down the track with the experience Eckersley and Farrimond are getting.

Grade 2, it won’t matter the LLS is done and dusted.

I need to watch it back but it felt like we got very very little in the second half, with the push on Farrell being missed and some iffy looking knock on/forward pass decisions. Saints won the penalty count 5-2, so it certainly doesn't add any weight to the social media posts I'm seeing from Saints fans saying Moore gave Wigan a helping hand.



Overall I didn't think Moore had any real bearing on the result and the game itself should be celebrated. It just firms up my opinion that Saints are quite comfortably Wigan's biggest threat when it comes to winning the Grand Final in October.

Heh! I am obviously in the minority here who feel that Wire are a bigger threat than Saints. I just think Saints don't really have that much in attack, they don't have a Harry Smith, or a Bevan French, or, indeed, a George Williams. Time will tell.

For all the Saints fans moaning about the ref, there was a very late tackle by Percy on Wardle on the same play as the Faz incident. when Faz.



Cut out ball to Marshall and Wardle was hit without getting the ball.

Maybe in the minority but certainly not alone Moto. They don't have enough cutting edge. They still had their best (if not necessarily first choice) spine out there tonight. We were missing 3 of ours, our attacking interchange hooker, and had our stand off constantly in at dummy half yet still outscored them 3 tries to 2. Let's be honest here, that could easily have been 5 or six to 2 as well. I haven't seen Marshy mess up 1 of those cross field kicks in years, let alone 2 in 1 game! We were held up over the line and also had 2 players taken out off the ball without a pen when yards from their line (although we may have taken the 2 points there).



We are apparently a 2 man team playing without both those players and still beat them. Imagine Wire beating them without Dufty, Williams, Walker (plus all their reserve hookers) and I doubt the Warrington faithful would be saying they're still their biggest threat.



I know they had a lot of players missing too but most of theirs would help get them better field position rather than do anything with it and, ultimately, doing anything with it is the same problem they've had for a couple of years now.



Great game though!

Anyone think that the bench of Mago, Walters, Byrne and Hill were a little disappointing? Little impact.

Yeah, not much from the bench really, which considering Saints played with 14 and a bit players was a little disappointing. In fairness they all seemed to get quite limited minutes, with Havard and Ellis doing big stints.

I have been disappointed with Byrne and Walters for a while, neither of them seem to be having much/any impact

I think all of Thompson, Harvard and Ellis did the full 80 if I'm not mistaken. Both teams effectively played with 14 players for the most part.

Mago never plays any sort of minutes versus Saints.

Walters played a major role in the Keighran try and for me just needs more minutes on the park.

I’m a fan of Hill but I was very disappointed in him last night. He’s a big lad but seemed to be gasping for air after only a minute or so.

Byrne is a bit of a mystery. A huge lad but rarely makes it across the advantage line. Again I am a fan but he’s way behind Ellis, Thompson and Havard. He needs to really step if he is to retain his place in the starting 17.

To give Byrne a bit of leeway, I don’t think a bench spot suits him really. He’s a player suited to playing from the start, playing bigger minutes and doing his thing, which is to lead the defensive intent. I also think he’s wrestling a bit with the disciplinary issues and trying to figure out how he can impact games legally.



On a side note, I thought Havard had his best game defensively in terms of intent. He was smashing people and that’s not always been the case. He put some real aggr On to his defence and if he adds that to his game, he’ll be an even better player. He needs to be less honest on the first try mind! I’d have taken the 10 minutes and tackled Welsby off the ball, I can’t lie!

Reading Peet's comments on how they set up with Ellis And Luke playing major roles in filling in for the missing 9 then it makes sense that the others were used sparingly

Walters needs to get far more aggression into his game, his yardage for a big man is poor. I am not sure that he is a second row forward more like a prop/13.

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/4480 Stats from yesterday evening. Some good numbers by the middles of both teams.

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/4480 Stats from yesterday evening. Some good numbers by the middles of both teams.

Nsemba was lifting people off the ground with the ferocity of his defence at times.



It was a bad miss by him for one of the Saints tries however generally he was an absolute menace in defence last night.



Walters needs time. He’s not had a great start to his Wigan career but there is still time. I do worry that the new rules go somewhat against him and his size. Nsemba is a big boy too but looks more athletic I think Walters is a bit less agile and is struggling to adapt to the lower tackle height and the knock on implications of it, ie quicker ptb’s.

I think that is a fair point Steve. One thing I thought Peet got wrong was the use of Farrimond and Farrell at hooker, I would have preferred Faz in at dummy half when attacking Saints and vice versa when we were coming out of our own half. Tying Farrimond up cut down our attacking options.