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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Do you not think that this seems to happen far too often to MM to continue the road of "this is just bad luck"?
Whether it be intent, mistiming, or miscalculation, as a player he is involved in far too many of these incidents. I'm not suggesting burning him at the stake, but his tackling technique (if it is mistiming) or whatever the problem is needs to be rectified. Whether that's a prolonged stay on the sidelines, I don't know (it's not for me to say) - but teams shouldn't face Wigan EXPECTING to have a player taken out.'"
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Thank you JJ and Vectrabeast for making two excellent posts on this matter... Thats shocked you both... lol
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Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"It's hardly happening far too often. Pretty sure he's only been banned twice in his professional career.'"
Been called up over 20 times though. Almost all on high/ careless/ dangerous/ late challenges
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Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"It's hardly happening far too often. Pretty sure he's only been banned twice in his professional career.'"
Been called up over 20 times though. Almost all on high/ careless/ dangerous/ late challenges
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They aren't call ups, they are cited incidents, which mean very little, because if he hasn't been banned he's not done much wrong.
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They aren't call ups, they are cited incidents, which mean very little, because if he hasn't been banned he's not done much wrong.
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Going off the current set up if you got called up twenty times you'd have had twenty bans.
Some players are being cited numerous times in one game. In Sundays game Pettybourne had 2 or 3 incidents that were looked at for example.
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| Quote Madderzahatter="Madderzahatter"MM does need to be careful though or he'll start making a reputation for himself, a la Newton. Being aggressive is fine, but it needs to be controlled...'"
He already has a reputation as a thug  |
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3 match ban and £300 fine from RFL on twitter
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Sounds fair enough. Only surprise is that we'd decided to contest it because it rarely works out well doing that.
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"They aren't call ups, they are cited incidents, which mean very little, because if he hasn't been banned he's not done much wrong.'"
Which is why I said in my first post (that certain people got uppity about) he was involved in "incidents" - in fact I haven't even said he's done anything wrong. I understand aggression can be mistaken for dirty, mistiming for malicious etc. But these incidents do keep occurring around mm more than average. Compare the citings to that of Jon Wilkin (who has a reputation as a "dirty player"icon_wink.gif and it's near double.
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An EGP would still have ruled him out of Wire away. Must have thought it was worth a shot. Obviously not!
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He's almost as big a liability as Hock was
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Which is why I said in my first post (that certain people got uppity about) he was involved in "incidents" - in fact I haven't even said he's done anything wrong. I understand aggression can be mistaken for dirty, mistiming for malicious etc. But these incidents do keep occurring around mm more than average. Compare the citings to that of Jon Wilkin (who has a reputation as a "dirty player"icon_wink.gif and it's near double.
Anyway 3 games and a fine. Onwards and upwards. Interesting he didn't use the egp? =#FF0000Is he thinking he'll need it later?
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| Quote Tingley Rhino="Tingley Rhino"He already has a reputation as a thug
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"Isn't he a Leeds lad ?'"
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"He can't use it later now that he has got a ban. Nothing unusual for Saints fans not to know the rules.
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Prior to Sunday he must have kept out of trouble for over 12 months or else wouldn't have been allowed an EGP.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"Prior to Sunday he must have kept out of trouble for over 12 months or else wouldn't have been allowed an EGP.'"
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Last time he was up before the disciplinary was after he was sent off against Saints in last game of 2012 (the Joining Jack shirts game)'"
And who knows if he hadn't missed the playoff agsainst Leeds we might have won. I wonder if the penny will drop with him. He did well all of last season, stayed on the field and we got the double. We really need all of our senior players available this year as there are so few of them. |
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He played for Qeens which may or may not be the reason he keeps losing his marbles , but it would be a shame if he finishes up with a reputation of a thug instead of the talented player he is .
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| Quote Benidorm John="Benidorm John"Nothing unusual for Wigan fans to try to bend the rules either
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I dont know what videos of the Dixon incident Wigan fans have seen but here is one posted by a Cas fan which looks pretty conclusive.
[urlhttps://vine.co/v/MqPHPZp0vrD[/url
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| Quote amberman="amberman"I dont know what videos of the Dixon incident Wigan fans have seen but here is one posted by a Cas fan which looks pretty conclusive.
[urlhttps://vine.co/v/MqPHPZp0vrD[/url'"
thats the carbon copy of Morley on McCormack in 1998, he didnt get sent off either |
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Watch boots'n'all if you get a chance watch the referee after the tackle. He clearly points and says shoulder. That is why he gave a penalty and no send off or on report. It's also why it was graded as reckless rather than deliberate. Obviously and correctly his previous has been taken into consideration hence 3 games rather than 2.
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| Quote amberman="amberman"I dont know what videos of the Dixon incident Wigan fans have seen but here is one posted by a Cas fan which looks pretty conclusive.
[urlhttps://vine.co/v/MqPHPZp0vrD[/url'"
Thats from the Wigan TV camera, and if you call seeing McIlorum back conclusive then your right  . at no point from that does it even look high never mind conclusive. |
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. at no point from that does it even look high never mind conclusive.
