I didn't say I had the answer

Michael Jennings would do though

He did play centre and do very well, but not defensively from what I saw.

I will go so far as to say had Joel taken the pass of his brother we would be heading for the Grand Final.





He is a very talented player indeed, he just is not a centre.

main point is joel does NOT want to play centre

Agree with most on this.



At the end of the day, Joel is class at SR. Average at centre. Imagine how good Charnley would be with a natural partnering him? Imagine how much stronger our pack would be with Joel in it? Hopefully this will be the first thing the new coach changes.

Total waste of Talent. He is a superb second rower and runs some awesome lines. I cant understand why MM has been playing him at centre when Darryl Goulding could of done a similar job and whilst i dont think Goulding will ever be world class he is a solid player who wont let anyone down. This would of allowed us to have Hansen coming off the bench instead of Farrell or Tuson.

Goulding is gash.

Why offer him a new 3 contract then last year? IMO he would of done just as good a job as Tomkins at centre and wouldnt of let anyone down.

Well I'm not his biggest fan either but we would have been better served with Goulding in the backs and Joel in the pack rather than play both Farrell and Tuson together. I'm not sure either is good enough but, together, they just get blown away. Too lightweight.

Where do Gareth Ellis, Ben Westwood and Carl Ablett play these days then?

Gareth Ellis - YES

Ben Westwood - YES

Carl Ablett -

I'm sure he will be equally amused when he walks out in the quest to achieve his 5th Grand Final winners medal.



Whilst I was clearly being tongue in cheek, Ellis and Westwood > Tomkins. Fact.

Oooh so you can name a whole 2 english players better than him in that position. Lets keep him at centre, theres obviously no room left for him to be class and improve in the second row

Thanks for the input flower; duly noted your inability to read the original comment outlining him as the best British second row. He clearly isn't.

The point of the OP was that we are playing a great second row at centre. So what if hes not 'the' best? He could be, if we stop playing him at centre.

Yes, you know better than Michael Maguire.

Do you really think if there were any decent centres available then Maguire would have passed that opportunity and kept Joel there? Yet again you're missing the point, im not saying hes a rubbish centre, im not saying i know better than Michael Maguire, neither am I saying that Joel is the best second row ever, all im saying is that he is better at SR than he is at Centre.

If you recall, but i know it does not suit your argument, we had a problem earlier in the season with our first choice centre. JT stepped up and has done reasonably well. But he is not a centre.