I thought Welsby,Lomax,and Grace played,also on another thread it was stated that Hurrell was the best signing of the season.

They did play, sorry I don’t understand your point. Grace is also now done for the season though unfortunately so sits with Makinson, Percival, Hopoate and Dodd as first choice backs out of the side.



We went into the season with a strong squad pretty much everywhere except scrum half - that’s our fault as it’s something that was flagged by lots of people before the season started. As a result the Dodd/Hopoate injuries and Lomax playing crocked are the big ones as they are the ones that hit pivot positions.



I thought Roby at 7 might be the best approach given how important strike at FB is and a desire to keep Welsby there given we have Lussick to cover 9, but we need to bite the bullet and get Welsby in the halves.



Grace’s injury now makes that a bit more difficult as we need to find more cover for the wing if Bennison is FB until (if?) Hopoate back . Lussick has been pretty disappointing too and just shows how blessed we’ve been with KC then Roby for so long.

My point is every team has players out and dont go on about it when they lose.You lot go into great detail why Stains are the greatest team ever and then go into great detail why if god forbids you lose a game why you lost,how many players were missing ,it was the refs fault etc etc.ffs you lost Stains arent that good anymore,you have had a good 3 seasons if you win this one then so be it. On a side note how many players were out when we knocked you out of the CC.

Please dont take this the wrong way but you are on a Wigan site telling us how good you are,how unlucky you with injuries etc you will get someone like me who think you are arrogant and cannot see any other teams problems that I will always respond in kind.

I’m writing in a thread called “Saints”. Sorry if it wasn’t actually about Saints.

Fantastic please do carry on.

And it is nice that you do,like I said dont take it the wrong way when we pull you up on various issues.



No need to be sorry though.

But I will add I wouldnt go on Redvee and post about Wigan I am sure the reaction would be slightly different and there is a thread about Wigan on the site.

Cant wait greatest derby of them all.

Will be some game !!!

I’m not sure what you want me to say - I have no issue with you having a view on what I write! If you think pointing out Saints having lots of players missing on edges after a defeat is arrogant so be it, I’m not going to lose any sleep about it chap.



I’ve also said Salford were tremendous and richly deserved the win.

Would've put good money on it being moved to Thursday, maybe the clubs have got the nod from Sky already ?

And you shouldnt lose any sleep over it old chum my point is mainly other posters are very arrogant not so much you.

Just watching the Saints v Cas game on TV. Don’t see anything to be afraid of here!

Superb defensive team but if they can't bully you into submission they seem to be sorely lacking a plan b

Tommy Martyn rolled the entertainers line out pre game.



Still a character the bloke.

They were poor and a better side, or even a more disciplined Cas, would have rolled them over.

Was a scrappy win but they happen. Worrying part I imagine for saints is 1 point win vs Wakefield a battering by Salford and a game that should have been put to bed was allowed to be blown wide open. The miss match of Farimo to the young lad on the wing was shocking. Going off form and desire (teams fighting to survive and stay in top 6)you’d imagine all the games for saints should be difficult. Think our game and the KR game should be the break for them

The style of rugby is very Bradford Bulls under Brian Noble. Big bodies pounding you into submission. Successful but boring to watch but results are what its about and it will take a good performance in a knockout game to beat them

There was speculation that the game would be moved as the Latics are at home on the Saturday. However, unless Sky moves the match to another day it will be played on the Friday.

Pretty unconvinced by Saints today, they should have dismantled Cas as they were woeful for the vast majority of the game. At 20-0 Saints of old would have gone on to put another 2-3 scores on them with ease but instead they limped home by letting in three tries which thankfully for them were all unconverted.

I agree Saints of old would have put Cas to the sword this one however are over rated and living on the past when they were superior in my opinion.

The young lad on the wing (Dan Hill ) hurt his shoulder early on i'm amazed Cas didn't target him more

We were poor in the 2nd half yesterday but that left edge of ours was all over the place. We ended up with Roby at centre and Davies on the wing at one point and our left backrower in the sin bin. Davies must be the slowest 3/4 I've ever seen. So yes we "let in" 3 tries but there were clear reasons why that edge was targeted as our entire 1st choice was missing (Dodd, Matautia, Percival and Grace) and it clearly showed. Out of those 4, Matautia is back next week and Percival hopefully not too far off so things will pick up.



Yesterday was just a case of getting the win and moving on. I think "limped home" nails it to be fair. Our performances need to improve without a doubt but I am not too worried just yet. We are going through a lull but bar the Salford game we are still winning. Hull away is a bigger test next week and then of course Wigan away on the horizon too so we need to start ramping things up again.

All banter aside, I wouldn’t take a bit of notice of Saints form this past few weeks. They’ve clearly targeted the Wigan and Huddersfield games and were very good in both and they’ve then had plenty of disruption since and have looked a bit short of motivation in games at Wakey, Salford and Cas. When the proper games come round and presuming they’ll have a stronger team out, they’ll be unbelievably tough to crack. I’m confident we can give it a real go but we’ll need to be better then we’ve been in the other games against them this season and I include the semi in that.

Agree with Nicky.



This isn't the time to get overconfident.



We've been improving all season. We no longer rely on Field to do a solo special like we did in the first half dozen games as they are all combining and contributing.



Our forwards have been building all season and we have a real point of difference in our pack now with Mago, KPP as well as the addition of Cooper who gives us ability to make more hard yards.



And, one area where we are easily better than saints is strength in depth and flexibility.



Bateman, Farrell, 2 starting hookers, starting half, two starting centres, Havard all missing this week and we didn't notice it.



What we do know is Saints will be hard to break down and compete to the last second. We just need to loo at Magic again to remember that.



I think we can beat them now and have a great chance in the GF rather than an outside chance at the start of the season, but we'll not have an easy game against them this season.

It wouldn't be as bad if Wigan actually played some difficult games. I can't remember the last time they played a decent team apart from at Magic? Looking at their fixtures they now Wakefield and Toulouse before the Saints game. Where are the games against Catalans or Huddersfield?



However I will say they are building well and are definitely the form team. If the GF was next week against us you'd have to say they would start favourites and rightly so. Pace to burn.

I'm looking round the room here looking for hidden cameras thinking is this a wind up and I'm on Beadles about or something?



Surely this is a poor wind up???