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| Quote jonh="jonh"I don’t like Mellor at 6 and I think their outside backs are poor with the exception of Leutele.
9, 13, 7 & 1 they are good but Hardaker is the risk in there.
Secondrow not particularly strong going off form and I’m not sure it they have much depth at prop.'"
If Hardaker can keep his head down, stay out of trouble and manage the jet lag each day, he’ll be an asset. The spine is pretty good as you point out, with good threat from Hardaker, Lam and Ipape and Asiata is a good player. One thing that I think will help Leigh is that Derek won’t have any problems in dumping a couple of overseas lads as and when better players come along mid season and they’ll also look at British options that open up, so I could see them starting pretty well and if they do fade, I think we’ll see some movement in to the club to help boost them.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Have you not followed his career to date at all?!'"
If he decides to fire off, so what? we move on.........You did didn't you?
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"If Hardaker can keep his head down.'"
I agree, but sadly it seems to be something he struggles with.
He’s hardly been out of the pub with a few of his ex Leeds teammates during the offseason.
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"If he decides to fire off, so what? we move on.........You did didn't you?'"
It’s the levels of disruption his behaviour can cause that is the issue.
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| Quote TheWarringtonWolve69="TheWarringtonWolve69"St Helen’s will finish top easily as no other team comes close in terms of first 13 and squad depth. Positions 2 and below are harder to call as every other team, whilst being miles behind St Helens are all just all the same talent and squad depth wise.'"
Is this a prediction from someone who doesnt predict ?
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| Quote jonh="jonh"It’s the levels of disruption his behaviour can cause that is the issue.'"
Either way, we rolled the dice, and we just have to get on with it.
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"Either way, we rolled the dice, and we just have to get on with it.'"
Agree, he’s a talented lad, it’s just a shame he lacks the off field discipline to compliment it…that is where the risk comes in with him.
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"
Why is Hardaker a risk?'"
Send Nottingham Tiger (or whatever he is called) a pm. He took stick on here for weeks on end but was proved right.
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Huddersfield
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| Quote TheWarringtonWolve69="TheWarringtonWolve69"St Helens
Huddersfield
Catalans
Hull kr
Warrington
Wigan
Leeds
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Hull fc
Leigh
Salford
Wakefield'"
Frightened to death of us.
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| Quote TheWarringtonWolve69="TheWarringtonWolve69"St Helens
Huddersfield
Catalans
Hull kr
Warrington
Wigan
Leeds
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Hull fc
Leigh
Salford
Wakefield'"
Wigan in 6th behind Catalan, Warrington and Hull KR is a very controversial take even for you  Nice try though.
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| Quote BoredWiganer="BoredWiganer"Wigan in 6th behind Catalan, Warrington and Hull KR is a very controversial take even for you
Nice try though.'"
I was going to give in 2/10 - Terrible attempt
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| If everyone just put him on Ignore we wouldn't have to read his embarrassing trolling
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I was going to give in 2/10 - Terrible attempt'"
But, but, but, he never makes predictions!!!!!
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| Quote TheWarringtonWolve69="TheWarringtonWolve69"St Helens
Huddersfield
Catalans
Hull kr
Warrington
Wigan
Leeds
Cas
Hull fc
Leigh
Salford
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Is that a prediction my none predicting friend is it just one of your voices telling you to predict.
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| A lot of people sleeping on Wire. Their spine is very good - Dufty, Williams, McGuire & Clark.
Other squad players with decent enough SL or NRL records too. I'd have Vaughn and Dudson in our pack too.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"1. Wigan
2. Leeds
3. St. Helens
4. Salford
5. Huddersfield
6. Catalans
7. Warrington
8. Hull FC
9. Hull KR
10. Castleford
11. Wakefield
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Wakey scrape it again by beating us at Belle Vue for a change. It's very easy to forget just how impressive Salford have been over the last few seasons. It's no fluke and they look to have improved again. Just wish the fans would turn out for them. Leigh will be a damp squib. The Hull teams... meh, Catalas customary drop off about September, Warrington run of the mill squad. Hudds steady, Saints drop off, Leeds continued improvement with a completely unbiased view that we steamroller the league
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Can i change this  Leeds are absolute e. Have they done a Pre-season or what?
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"Can i change this
Leeds are absolute e. Have they done a Pre-season or what?'"
They’re missing a few but I’ve not thought much to some of the ‘inventive’ changes made by Rohan Smith going in to the year. Players out of position, short kick offs and drop outs and no captain all just feels like a guy trying to be different for the sake of it, as though he wants to be Rugby Leagues own Pep Guardiola and to be seen as a revolutionary. He had them playing so well at the back end of last season and I just don’t get the experimental nature of their pre season.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They’re missing a few but I’ve not thought much to some of the ‘inventive’ changes made by Rohan Smith going in to the year. Players out of position, short kick offs and drop outs and no captain all just feels like a guy trying to be different for the sake of it, as though he wants to be Rugby Leagues own Pep Guardiola and to be seen as a revolutionary. He had them playing so well at the back end of last season and I just don’t get the experimental nature of their pre season.'"
Everything they are doing is half hearted and laboured. I reserve the right to comment on Wire until iv'e seen them play against a moving opposition. I still don't think they will be there when the pots are being handed out regardless of how many they rack up tonight.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"Everything they are doing is half hearted and laboured. I reserve the right to comment on Wire until iv'e seen them play against a moving opposition. I still don't think they will be there when the pots are being handed out regardless of how many they rack up tonight.'"
Aye, it’s safe to say trophies won’t be won tonight. If they can remain this hungry their pack will see them take huge strides forward but we’ll see. Tough to confirm much as you say, given how poor Leeds have been. It’s been a continuation of pre season form for them.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Frightened to death of us.'"
Yes of course. Frightened by a team that has been no where near winning super league during a time when st Helen’s won it with ease, year after year. I put Wigan there because they have no pack and whilst peets game plan of chuck it to field worked for the first half of the season, it was completely Ineffective at the back end of the season.
Wigan are no where near being SL champions which is evident by where I put them
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"They’re missing a few but I’ve not thought much to some of the ‘inventive’ changes made by Rohan Smith going in to the year. Players out of position, short kick offs and drop outs and no captain all just feels like a guy trying to be different for the sake of it, as though he wants to be Rugby Leagues own Pep Guardiola and to be seen as a revolutionary. He had them playing so well at the back end of last season and I just don’t get the experimental nature of their pre season.'"
Shocked by how poor they were.
They looked massively off the pace, and only got the late tries because Warrington had backed off. One of those late tries, the Wire defender made no effort to tackle him at all. They'd clearly put the cue on the rack.
I honestly saw nothing in that Leeds side to worry any other team in the league. There was no danger there at all.
First game, yeah. Too early to say, things can change etc etc. But it sounds as though they've had a clownish pre-season, and I can't help wondering if the Rohan Smith bubble is going to burst in 2023.
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