Hahaha, you say 'have a quick word' as if you know them - Let's be honest, you seen the pictures on Hansen's facebook didn't you? lol just jk with you pal! x

someone posted some pics a few month back of feka when at NZ warriors. He was a similar shape to fui fui. looked awesome. if he gts back to something like that we will have a monster of a prop on our hands,

He will have lost the majority of the weight he is likely to lose by now as they should be moving into the strength/power section now, he may lose a little more but i would not expect any more significant losses, perhaps another 5/6 pounds.



They could put him on a further non linear periodised program that is less power/strenght than the others, and maintain a little more aerobic work but i think that 25 pounds is a hell of a lot to lose in an off season and the last thing we need are the strong areas of his game to be affected by his loss.

Lets be fair and say he defo needed to lose at least one and half stone for the new season

seriously all the best for next season you will be "there or there abouts" in all the comps

Have criticised him in the past for being a fat knacker, would love to see him in shape and earning his money by terrifiying the opposition

they have still got halloween masks for sale in sainsbury's

Nah thanks, he's growing his own.

I am sorry but when you weigh 21 stone loosing a stone and a half aint good enough,he needs another 2 off at least.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love him to slim down to the point where he's no longer effective.

Only been back in training a month and a bit give him time yeah

I wouldn't worry, WK. He's frittened deeyath!!!

So your saying he needs to be 17 and a half stone are you? At that weight he would no longer have the impact that he should have a good prop should be at least 18 and a half stone.

I don't think anybody is saying he should be 14st. But you only have to look at the film of him against Hull a couple of years back. I know which i would prefer. I would be happy if he was to stay the same weight if it was muscle and he was fit... But he has put weight on, there is no doubt about that. And as he is not getting younger, who is, it can only be for the best. I don't think that losing two stone in weight will make him less effective, especially if he is in better condition.

For him to drop 4 stone in an off season would have major consequences for his performance.



I finally have great faith in our conditioning team, IF he needs to lose anymore he will do it during the season naturally and also in the next off season.



For a pro athlete to lose 2 stone in such a short time is a major achievement, but it must be done in a way to improve not be detremental to performance.





The proof will come from his performances ithis season.

I've no reason to dispute this, but I'm in agreement with Jonh in that I'd rather trust our highly professional conditioning staff than listen to Boyd2, who clearly doesn't know anything about the player at all - in terms of his physiology that is - but who, from past posts, never lets factual deficiencies like that get in the way of giving a lecture.

I'm withya...

Feka seemed to me to be topping the scales at about 278-285lbs [About 20st in old money For me he needed to be going in at 252lbs [18st To be at his devastating best. This weight would give him the fitness to be a decent player and not be found out in defence and also the weight and bulk to be the impact prop we all know he can be. Hopefully with the talk of him getting his weight down 20lbs he can get down to optimum weight in time for the new season.

18 Stone would be about the weight i'd be looking at Feka being. I'd guess he was just below that when he first came to Wigan but eveybody puts on abit of natural weight and he could afford a few extra pounds when he first came.



If he's about that weight at the start of next season and they manage to get some extra fitness into him he could be like a new signing. He's always there or thereabouts in the metres made stats and if you can get him fit enough to play just a few extra minutes and defend better we'll be well on our way to having the player we want.

Agreed. its just about balance. If he is better able to defend, and i'm not being critical, that frees up others to create space, instead of feeling they may need to cover.

i would not expect his game time to be significantly improved, it will go up a bit i would expect, but it clear he is genetically a fast twitch dominant individual, which gives him such natural power. These fibres cannot be converted to slow twitch fibres (although there is a floating group of fibres that can switch dependant on training, but these are not in significant amounts).



Any gains he will make will be most noticeable regards his agility and also his pace, hopefully this will improve his lateral movement and not make him such a target in defence.



I would be very surprised to see anything more than 20 minute bursts but hopefully these bursts will be more effective in both attack and defence.



His quality should significantly improve even if his game time does not.

Thanks for the technical stuff...

Saying that I bet you was one of the people up on your feet shouting his name when he scored in the play offs agains KR

Was he only 21 stone. I'm not being funny but he looked more than that to me. He will have a great season because his contract has one year to run and it's obvious he is making a big effort.

I can't see how Feka's game would be majorly effected if he did drop to the weight he was when he first signed.



At the end of the day the Feka we signed back then was a NZ international and he isn't anymore.