just an opinion,and would welcome everybody elses views,Do you prefer to go under the banner of Great Britain or England in international fixtures.team selection wise I know it wouldn't make alot of differance,has we all know where most of the quality players come from but I've always prefered G.B.especially with the olympics coming up team G.B is going to be a massive reconised brand in the future and could only benifit R.L if we joined(not jumped on) the bandwagon.

GB, England doesn't work for RL,

Not sure why but I prefer Great Britain.



(Does that mean Paaaat could play for us???)

ok ,how many players have played for G.B who wouldn't have qualified for England in the past and how many would in todays team?

Technically, yes. However, he did tell Brian Carney on his Super League Supermen show that he wouldn't "do what you did" which left BC speechless (for probably the first time ever

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British by birth, English by the grace of god..................Show some pride!

England for my money, gives the other nations a chance to improve

as soon as we split into individual nations it went t!ts up.

works at soccer....not at rugby.



take a comparison.......ryder cup ......used to be gb v usa ..and we got hammered.

added europe and we are competitive.

pool....mosconi cup.......usa would hammer gb.



lets get back to strength in numbers and gat back to GB.....only way we'llever be competitive imo.



next question..........Wales have qualified for next years 4 nations.....along with aussies , kiwis..and WHO?

if we lose to PNG are we out of it next time around?...will wales take our place?

how the hell you worked that out?........most of the players from Wles, ireland and scotland are come out of the woodwork foreigners.



as tery o connor said on boots n all.........nobody wanted to know about playing for wales......but now they are in 4 nations theres gonna be NRL players digging up Welsh great great great grandparents to play in it.

If you were the best player on the best team in wales you would still have no chance of playing for GB because it's SL/NRL only. This gives them that chance, and it doesn't really make England any weaker anyway, who would be playing for us? Briers and Richards, that's about it. You touch on selection too, I think this needs sorting, it should be whichever country you have lived in longest IMO, none of the great grandparents rubbish.

The other nations will only improve if after choosing to play for Scotland , Wales or Ireland they have to stay with these countries.If England can cherry pick the best from these countries after they have shown promise these minor registration countries will continue to tread water .



3 Irish players (their names escape me) after the world cup threw their hat in with England, as did Danny Brough the Scottish captain (now back with Scotland the mugs we are). Mark Calerwood was offered a place in the England World Cup squad only 7 days before the World Cup to cover injuries. He pulled out of the Scotland squad he was already selected for and training with to do so .



Wales have played well this year and well done to them, but i think we all feel they will take a couple of thumpings in the 4 nations next year .



Would watch 17 Englishmen play for GB but not under the English flag.It has to be GB for me and i will be at all the games .



Regards , EW

SL best hooker - Cunningham in the past.

Jonathon Davies played for Wales against the Aussies as well as GB.

Briers would have played on the current tour.



Not many that I can think of, but would have made a big difference.

England for me. Since RU went pro GB is basically England so there would be no difference to the team anyway. England also give Wales, Scotland and Ireland a chance to deveop.

for some reason I always preferred it when it was Great Britain instead of England

Great Britain........bring back the Red , White & Blue !!!!!!!!!!!

If I remember rightly, the only reason they changed frm GB to Wales, Ireland etc was to claim extra funding from the government. was it Sporting England???

Personally I prefer England, can't tell you why I just do.



However, I would one day like to see a "British and Irish Lions" tour - similar to that of RU's, but actually taking Welsh/Irish/Scottish players as well as English players. I think its only then when we should refer it to GB.

There is no magic any more now that it is the home nations, I don’t get the same buzz from watching Scotland, England, Wales or Ireland. It used to be the highlight of the RL calander for my money, but not anymore.



I feel that it should be team GB for all the minor tournaments (test series, 4 nations etc) and split into home nations for the World cup.



When team GB get together for the 4 Nations or a test series. Have a "B" comp running for the home nations.



This will allow "real" Scottish, Welsh and Irish players to represent their country at RL against a more level playing field against England "B" and France.



There was nowt wrong with the old system, so why can’t we just go back?



Don’t give me anything that it helps develop players from the minor (in RL terms!!) nations. At the moment every player with an ounce of talent declares them self eligible for England because they know that is the only chance they will get to play against the Ockers and Kiwis.



Let these talented players play for their respective nations, but at the same time let them be in contention to be picked for GB against the big boys.



At the moment the GB team would be made up of a majority of English players, that pretty much stands to reason. But think of all the players that have played for GB over the years would not have declared themself for England



Of the top of my head

Brian Carney, Tez O’Connor, Barrie Mac, Chris Joynt, Jonathon Davis, KFC, Iysten Harris etc

They would all have played for England if there was no GB equivalent, with the exception of Carney and Davies perhaps.



O'Connor/Mac/Joynt/KC/Harris are all blatantly Lancs/Yorks lads.

And that is exactly the reason we need Team GB.

I don't follow.



The fact is that most of the players you quoted are English.



We can form make believe teams with Chris Joynt playing for Ireland, Cunningham playing for Wales, Richards playing for Ireland, Briers playing for Wales etc etc but the fact is it's all just one big cover up.

I would agree with this and go back to the tours every four years as GB.

Tours would be difficult as the league seasons run simultaneously here and in Aus.

No more a make believe cover up than what is happening now.



At least under the old system a player declared himself available for a nation and stuck with them because they knew that if they were good enough, they would get picked for GB.



And if players of the calibre of Barrie Mac, Terry O and Harris played for Wales and Ireland then the standard across the home nation sides would be much, much higher than what it is currently.



Yeah I agree that it is a falsehood. But just imagine English born SL players with roots elsewhere deciding to play for Wales, Scotland etc, and then you would have players who would never be considered for England, getting invaluable international RL experience. This in turn would undoubtedly increase the standard of play in the Super league.



It has got to be much better this way, than having 17 aussies running out for the home nations, because no other Bug*er wants to play for them. It is always going to be a falsehood because people in Ireland or Scotland have no real interest in RL.

Yes its true iv posted something of the same on VT its all down to money the reason we changed from GB to England