Stu's assessment of Saints is pretty much my own view although I will add that I've seen some Saints fans saying "if we have better luck with injuries" and similar and I genuinely don't think that's a possibility. Although there's always an element of luck there's a law of diminishing returns when you (re)sign injury prone players. Saints have too many of those. I see similar to last year, or maybe a touch better, on the injury front but not enough to make a significant difference.

For Wigan I think we'll go well again but unlikely to match last year's heroics simply because we'll be competing on all fronts again. We did well to get our spine (O'Neil excepted) back in harness when it mattered and I don't think that's something that you can count on most years. Vegas will have an effect too. I'll go for another trophy and there or thereabouts in the others. That said, I wouldn't put it past this lot to raise their game again.

Like most Wigan fans I'm looking forward to the season again and that in itself is something to be happy about.

As of last night there were less than 350 left for the away end which as apollosghost says above, there are still nearly 3 weeks to go. 


It's a decent effort considering that most Saints fans I know are thinking the same as me that we could be on for a hiding!

It can't be long until Wellens gets the chop? 4 years without getting to the CC final, 2 years without getting to a SL GF and a tough run of fixtures coming up which could see them slip down the table.

For all the "Wigan would be bang average without French and Field" it''d be god help Saints if they lost Welsby, one of the best defensive displays I've seen from a fb for a long while today and looked their only real threat going forward.
Shame for him that loose pass finally killed the game off but credit to Wire for spotting Saints were shot to pieces on their right hand side and taking advantage of it.

They're just not right St Helens. Ageing players, injuries, no kicker and no cutting edge in attack.


Sailor was atrocious. 

I just hope they don't do anything stupid like sack Wellens before GF.
If he continues to play that team that he basically has done all season I'll be bitterly disappointed if we don't dismantle them like we did Wire.